Germany still has 15 billion € open in this year budget and doesnt know what to spend it on

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Hmmm...

    When in doubt, YouTube.

    I wanted a quick explanation so searches Goethe for Children... This was as close as I could find.
     
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    No, life is bettet in east now. No muslims, less crime. Better infrastructure
     
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    Are you Christian? What have you got against the Muslims?
     
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    Around that period. The limitation was colors. People wanted pretty colorful pictures.
     
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    Im atheist. Eastern germany has no religious people. Infact polls could not find a single person believing in god.

    Muslims are not german and their culture is disgusting for me.
     
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    You'd rather them persecuted than creating a community in your country?
    What does that say about your country?
     
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    He has spoken highly of having Nazi influences in his region.

    And I know for a fact that there are Christians in the former East Germany.
     
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    He also boasted the uranium for Chernobyl coming from there.
    Which means they either traded with or perhaps more likely were servant to the Soviets and we all know how well the USSR turned out with Chernobyl. Soviet cover ups telling their people they were advanced while living in the third world in that regime while robbing its people by banning private ownership to say the least, and the more speech you had, the more likely the Gestapo whisked you away; Probably the spawn of generations of Nazis and Gestapo, @Sobo, Germany's answer to G.I Joe or Action Man.
     
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    No.
    Its a matter of rent and real estate prices and with the quality roads and rail you can live in the East, spent 30% less on rent or real estate and comute to your job in the West.
     
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    Which is precisely what Sobo does. He has talked about getting on a train and commuting to his job about two hours away. I questioned to how you could ever be a two hour train ride from anywhere in Germany but oh well.
     
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    Which is not really true. East Germans had a higher living standard, but it was all make up and only possible as long as the Soviet Union kept its Poster Child prepped up. When Gorbi pulled the plug East Germany collapsed, bankrupt.
    Empty shell.
    I travelled through EG and Poland and Chek, 6 month after the Wall came down. I was embarrassed and disgusted by East Germany, filthy, run down a environmental disaster and the people proud of it. Poland, poor but one could see that the folks had some pride left and had tried to keep things up, same with the Cheks and Slovenians.
    East German cities were in horrible conditions, nothing worked, which was not the case in the other 2 countries. Were they western standard, no
     
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    I believe the correct response to that is
    "Yeah, I had a piece of **** train like that too once 'till they upgraded it."
     
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    He lives in the boonies. Areal backwards part of East Germany.
    So he does not have access to fast commute transportation. Maybe Bus and than the local train, stopping every 2 minutes or so.
    High speed transportation is based on priority. His town is unimportant concerning that.
    The places which are of interest for West Germans in East Germany, a short commute to a rail station, 20 minutes, with a high speed connection.
    Its common in the West.
    A friend of mine is regional license holder for a US fast food. The region is in a different State, so every morning he drives to the Station, 5 minutes and commutes by train to his office, 1h and 15 minutes, 200 kilometers away. Its nothing special.
    You can live close to Frankfurt, lets say 50 miles. Rush hour, it will take you easily 1 hours. The traffic is that insane.
     
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    Maybe they can spend their 15bn Euro surplus on faster trains for Germans everywhere in Germany, if not relocating refugees EU as a whole out sourced to Turkey and Erdogan (of all people) for a lot less (4.3bn Euros over a period from 2014 - 2020) and diversify a nation/stop Erdogan from weaponising extra mouths to feed and feed them yourselves and stop asking everyone even poor A' countries like Hungary (which has its own backwards finger up backside finger smelling it's god forsaken self induced problems like the rest of EU) to do it through the EU's mechanism of equal one size fits all madness when Germany's working out what to do with 15bn Euros which can more than afford to take care of all these Syrian refugees in Germany itself.

    What's fair is countries who can afford to do it should do it instead of the country who can afford to do it using the EU to demand everyone does it or it'll out source it to President Erdogan who has threatened to take the EU 28's money (UK's too) and run.
    Well come 2020 I don't think a post Brexit Britain should pay Turkey to house the EU's refugees when UK is a beacon for refugees and has a long history of helping those in need who reach these shores.
     
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    If you are a person who can be easily entertained, reading, crossword puzzles thst kind of thing. It would be well worth a 2 hour train ride not to live in a bug city. The pictures he has posted make it look like a quite nice place to live. Cities are the pits.


    As for backwards. I'll take a a backwoods kentucky redneck over an over educated New Yorker Any day.
     
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    2 hour commute?
    Damn, that’s 4 hours of your life every day!
    No wonder his self esteem is so low.
     
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    O well, considering boonies, I guess I beat every one. I like it, its a very good and slow live, in comparison.
    I better be on my farm and work with the livestock, than in town, in my other business and having to deal with the people.

    It is a qyuiet nice place he lives in, but that is it, nothing else. For a young person dead end or get out.
     
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    It's his town and he can love it as much as he likes. I can love where I'm from just the same and cite it's influence on the world too when I want to.

    Life's a lottery when it comes to origin location and people and being of a people and from somewhere either trapped or choosing to stay where you're from.
    All I can say is, I like where I'm from, like @Sobo can say the same about wherever he's from, viva la difference.

    That said, I still think it's an intolerant land with a colour pallet of grey on grey and delusions of European grandeur and a fondness for bureaucracy.
     
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    One more point.
    He probably has no car and depends solei on public transportation
     
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    No, he claims he has a car.
    His father hooked him up with a free place to live, though.
    Which town does he live in?
     
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    Why should he not be proud.
    Its a beautiful town with a rich and old history, which goes back over a thousand years.
    Not everything or every place has to have a geopolitical impact. Quality of live is more important.
     
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    Free place, what a surprise.

    For the Rest I have no answer.
    2 hours he must net make enough money to afford the trip in his own car, maybe ?
     
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    So is culture and tolerance.

    I'm some what lucky in that I like where I'm at with my own history on that one considering I know Soho and Abbey Road Studios in my blood, personally, even a great aunt from Brixton who died in America / performed on Broadway a lot back in the day, that's my people.

    So I can really understand being proud of where your blood comes from and what 'your'/personal culture is in this world; I see no value in a culture of Islamophobia and I don't for one second buy into this whole mighty Europe/USA small notion I'm afraid; but he doesn't exactly get freedom of speech and rights of minorities and the use a powered lawn mower in an urban area to cut your lawn on a Sunday, me and @Sobo are aliens in that I have freedom of speech and he has freedom of expression and I have rights of minorities and he doesn't realise refugees aren't criminals and is somewhat xenophobic and assumes the worst and doesn't seem to realise bad apples don't spoil a whole damn bunch when it comes to refugees VS. criminals and terrorists who exploit the asylum system.
     
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    I remember him writing he lives in Ghota.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotha.

    Maybe wrong
     
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