Germany, the UK, and the USA have sent an ‘unprecedented’ letter to Ramaphosa – here’s what it said

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    https://businesstech.co.za/news/gov...ented-letter-to-ramaphosa-heres-what-it-said/
    Wonderful thank you America, Germany, Britain, Netherlands and Switzerland, corruption is at the heart of South Africa's problem along with gross mismanagement.

    I bolded the part above where the official complain that the move was unprecedented and only used when governments violate their laws or commit human rights violations.

    Well I have news for them... The sewage flowing into river systems are a humanitarian disaster, a direct result of corruption and gross mismanagement. Not to lack of clean drinking water and sanitary living conditions a basic human rights, lack of security, health services and having to live with faeces flowing in the streets. Plenty human rights violated by the ANC's theft of government funds and mismanagement.

    Vaal Triangle ‘Drowning in Sewage’, Posing Threat to Gauteng’s Drinking Water
    https://www.sapeople.com/2018/07/31...age-posing-threat-to-gautengs-drinking-water/

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    how does a corrupt nation tell another nation to stop being corrupt? thats kind of hypocritical. uk germany and america are all permanent members of the UN which is a corrupt undemocratic body
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    ok so when you don't have clean water to drink and have to live with other people's faeces in your home... your backyard, your street... breathe it every day, your children play in it, your basic human rights violated.... we'll get China to write your government a letter
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Apocalyptic scenes as the water runs out

    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/olifantshoek-protests-water-shortage-video/
     
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    I dont care who you get to write a letter, all im saying is that White Europeans calling South Africa corrupt is hypocritical. Your nations are in terminal debt and all that you have is fake and beyond your means even down to the fake money you have which doesnt exist. money doesnt grow on trees, one of the biggest white lies ever told. How about you show me your gold then we can start trading insults from a matter of perspective.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is no comparison between the scale of corruption around the world and the scale of corruption in South Africa. Within 20 years South Africans have gone from a good standard of living... even in poor areas there were warm running water for showers and clean toilets..... now living in absolute filth and sewage in their drinking water... some areas the taps have run dry. It's a catastrophe and when you find yourself in a similar situation due to corruption you can throw the hypocrisy claim around as much as you like,

    View the article to see how much money South African State owned Enterprises lose per second


    See how much money Eskom and SAA lose every second
    https://mybroadband.co.za/news/busi...ch-money-eskom-and-saa-lose-every-second.html

    Airline

    SAA – R5,670,000,000 loss yearly

    Electricity

    Eskom – R4,608,000,000 loss yearly

    Transport

    Prasa – R928,000,000 loss yearly

    Broadcaster

    SABC – R622,000,000 loss yearly

    Health services, water, sewage, are all completely run down... people are dying from a lack of healthcare, lack of water and lack of clean water and forced to live in faeces. There is no defending the African National Congress....and until that particular bullshit stops South Africans will continue to die and suffer.
     
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    Nice one - pots, kettles, and the colour black come to mind.
     
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    and meanwhile, america is in a $10 trillion debt to china THAT IT NEVER EVER INTENDS TO PAY. usa is the most corrupt nation in history and if it were a person it would be bankrupt and forced to live in a cardboard box.
     
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    E... South Africa has stolen itself back into the stone age. You've never seen corruption like this... no one has. By even trying to compare this to any other... only demonstrate your incomprehension of the scale of corruption in South Africa. You need to steal a shitload of money... to bring an entire country to its knees.

    Honestly I don't blame you for not understanding... it's surreal

    From 5% Growth to a $4.9 Billion Bailout: What Went Wrong?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...roubled-utility-reveals-country-s-fatal-flaws

    ps Eskom is power utility supplier

    By 2030 the country will also be out of water

    Dire countrywide water shortage to hit South Africa in 2030
    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/south-africa-water-shortage-2030/

    Some communities already out of water... imagine life without water then you may be able to comprehend what these people are going through.

    No water, no electricity ... but lots of garbage in 'cursed Makhanda'
    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...city--but-lots-of-garbage-in-cursed-makhanda/

    Taps run dry in Bethal after municipality fails to pay R87.7m water bill

    https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...r-municipality-fails-to-pay-r877m-water-bill/

     
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    I have a word after reading the above, a word or several.

    South Africa IS corrupt, period.
     
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    And China doesn't intend to collect. What's your point?
     
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    Thank you, Thought Criminal, for that perfect insight.
     
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    and yet you cannot begin to fathom the level of corruption needed to amass a national debt of $22 trillion AND COUNTING, shocking.
     
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    maybe or maybe not, however, the white nations are even more corrupt and have no business lecturing SA unless they intend to reform their own wicked practices.
     
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    Esau, you have no way of proving which nations by race are "more" corrupt.

    If you are saying mankind is corrupt by nature, I agree with you.
     
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    given that the most corrupt nation on earth is america and america is run by white folk exclusively then id say its a fair bet to say that white folk are the most corrupt ppl. its not much of a stretch of the imagination really. i mean, who else has committed genocide on every continent? genocide is the pinnacle of corrupt behavior.
     
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    We ship dollars, by the ton, to China. China ends up with lots and lots o' dollars. China would end up wih dollars coming out of their ears, if they didn't do something with them. They believe that the best thing for them to do is ship them back to us in exchange for promises.

    At the same time; if we didn't get those dollars back, we'd be reduced to checking under the sofa cushions to find more. Once all the furniture was upended, our only final recourse would be to print more dollars. This would result in more dollars in existence throughout the world.

    The result of that would be a reduced value of each individual dollar. That would lower the value of China's dollar holdings and the value of our debt that they hold. It would also cause the price of their products to rise in the US and the price of our products to fall throughout the world. This, from China's perspective, would be bad for business.

    China has no plans to cash in their chips, anytime soon.

    See: "balance of payments".

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bop.asp
     
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    thats all very good but i, on behalf of china, are calling in the debt of $22 trillion as we seek to consolidate now. When can you pay this?
     
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    I guess I wasted my time.
     
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    thats right, daddys home!
     
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    Big FAT eye roll @Esau

    Think you should spend more time working off that chip on your shoulder
     
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    ditto, all you have is negativity about africa, typical european bot, you should be ashamed of your racism if you are a white person.
     
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    You are the racist here Esau. Besides it's a news site... if you want to post news about kittens getting rescued you're in the wrong place
     
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    Yes, but we don't believe in witchdoctors nor slice body parts off of the bodies of babies and children with blunted razor blades?
     
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    of course you believe in witch doctors, why do you think america has an opioid epidemic?
     

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