Getting back to the abortion issue i.e. Roe overturned..

It was addressing a post about morality. Perhaps you missed it.

 

In instances where no one was hurt and it is just a drunk driving offence most people get out of that offence where they don't end up having it on their record. They had the option of fighting it in court. They weren't forced to accept the situation.

 

Please don't spread lies about me.

 

Maybe most people screw around and don't get pregnant too. I probably drove drunk more than I drove sober when I was in my 20's....

And I never accidentally got a lady pregnant.

 

Me neither.

 

No lies were spread. I merely posted what many often say.
There's plenty of people who blame the woman for getting pregnant.

 

That may be but I'm not one of those.

So why did you imply that I blame solely the woman by quoting me?

That wasn't an entirely honest move Magnus Carlsen.

 

I just followed the conversation we had.
I even posted the entirety of the posts we had.

And I never said, you personally were blaming women.

 

Good.

That's good.

What about you though, do you accept the responsibility of having intercourse?

A lot of men don't.

See? I did not quote you Dairyair. And I ask. I did not accuse.

 

Authoritarianism is characterized by its abrogation of personal liberty, its rejection of political plurality, its use of a strong central power to impose its dictates, and its refusal to respect the democratic will.

Killing people is not authoritarian when it is not ordered or done by the State.

When a government orders a person executed - or a zygote/blastocyst/embryo/fetus either terminated or not terminated - it is imposing authoritarian rule.

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You used "authoritarian" as an adjective to modify the noun "rule".

I used "authoritarian" as an adverb to describe "killing" There is a tremendous difference. You are talking about rules. I was taking about an action.

 

"Authoritarian" is not an adverb.

 

Yeah. It was a poor sentence and I should have worded it differently, maybe "Since when is killing people not authoritarianism?"

But that's not what I wrote. Thank you for the correction.

 

authoritarian
adjective
au·thor·i·tar·i·an ȯ-ˌthȯr-ə-ˈter-ē-ən
ə-,

-ˌthär-

Synonyms of authoritarian
1
: of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority
had authoritarian parents


2
: of, relating to, or favoring a concentration of power in a leader or an elite not constitutionally responsible to the people
an authoritarian regime

authoritarian noun

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One can't use authoritarian as an adverb. In proper speak.

 

We know. Try to keep up.

 

Not much that I know of. Thats why I said the argument that abortion laws will cause pandemonium seems disingenuous. I oppose restricting abortion with laws ...but for other reasons. This one in OP seems not a very good one.

 

Alcohol kills more people than guns. More people drink themselves to liver failure than shoot themselves, and drunk drivers kill about the same number of people as shooters. The worst drunk driving accident killed more kids (by hitting a school bus) than any mass shooting.

But Im guessing you dont want to require background checks to purchase alcohol, track every bottle of booze in a national database, sue alcohol distillers for selling a dangerous product or make posession of whiskey while in commission if a crime an aggravated felony... right?

 

"Person" is a philosophical argument. Last I knew our government, no government imo, does not and should not ever base law on philosophical arguments. We already did that once in our history during the slavery era. It was a bad call then, it's a bad call now. The only thing that we should be basing our laws on is science and facts. And science has determined that new human life begins at conception. Your example of shedding skin cells is a bad example since the skin cells you shed not only have the same DNA as you, (therefore not unique human life just beginning), but they are also dead cells, not alive.

 

Men cannot have abortions or get pregnant. Therefore the discussion is not about them or what they do or do not contribute.

Pro-Choicers LOVE to bring men into the equation of every abortion argument in the way that you did. Its not only irrelevant, but it also ignores the fact that the man has no choice in whether the woman gets an abortion or not. It also ignores the fact that men currently are the ones held accountable if the woman decides to keep the child, they have NO option to "aborting" their responsibilities towards the child like the woman does. None. They can't even put the child up for adoption. Yet the woman can so long as her name is the only one on the birth certificate.

 

Science does not support the notion that each and every living cell is a human being in itself.

Exploiting the coercive power of the State to impose your our extremist view upon everyone is not justified.

 

Science supports the fact that individuals are identifiable by their unique DNA. Your extremist belief that a living human being is not a human and not alive will not be tolerated. We do not condone murder.

 

Indeed.

Of course, a human being is a human being.

Your pretense that every microscopic, mindless amalgam of cells is a person, a belief that you want the State to impose upon everyone is a separate matter entirely.

 

No, you are acting stupid.

Your pretense is that smashing up an eagle's nest full of eggs is not killing baby eagles, just cleaning up the dead non-eagle cells the mother must have left there.

 

You're kidding, right?
One has to pass a test to drive a car.
This wasn't about drinking. Drinking only affects the drinker.
It was the combination of drinking then driving. Which is illegal and will get a suspension of driving if convicted.

I am not sure how this all went over your head.

 

You missed something.
It addresses nothing about my post or the one I responded to.

Unless you think a pregnancy is only the fault of the woman. Is that it?

And if it is her fault only, she can handle it how she feels fit. Her, her doctor, and any close relationships she may want to use for support.