gfm7175's 2024 (s)election predictions...

I think I can safely make my predictions for the next cycle a bit earlier this time around. Here they are:

SENATE: D's will obtain/retain control of it.
HOUSE: D's will obtain/retain control of it.
PRESIDENT: D's will retain control of it.

D's will continue to miraculously buck all historical trends, no matter how hated they are (and further become).

 

This prediction of mine, made two years in advance, will actually be correct for once, as it is entirely based off of Democrat election fraud (i.e, their going after ballots instead of voters) and is not at all based on voters or their feelings/interests.

 

As of now, I agree with your predictions. Although that's subject to change as conditions change. But if you want to know the secret sauce to being I think the most correct in your 2022 election prediction thread, I just assumed the same sort of hinky electoral counting issues, like machine "malfunctions" and taking more than an entire day to count ballots, would lead to similar results as the 2020 elections did. Well what do you know, got em!

I think every prediction I made I got correct except for the outstanding Georgia race, so we'll see if my record holds up.

 

I don't think they even need the fraud. It was inevitable that at some point there would be enough Millennials, Gen X, and Gen Z young people on the voter rolls that the Dems, progressives, socialists, communists, et al, would control everything. Government school indoctrination is paying off for the Establishment.

The indoctrinated young, combined with the ideologues, and special interests - and with much more corporate $$ - there will be no stopping them from destroying the country.

As I've been saying for years, the Constitution will be gone by 2030.

 

Well Demography is destiny.

 

Everyone has a vested interest in freedom - that is true irrespective of race, gender, demographic.

Where people lose sight of that and societies go off the rails, is when an external force, or an internal pressure or deception, misleads the people into accepting irrational arguments and they follow bad leadership.

Indoctrination and propaganda are what swayed the people. Demographics is incidental.

 

I should point out too, and I'm sure you're aware, that the indoctrination and propaganda was, indeed, specifically tailored for each demographic group.

The propaganda that is directed at feminists is of course much different from the propaganda directed at blacks, Hispanics, etc.

In that sense demographics plays a huge role; but from the standpoint of common interest, and rational desire to be free, demographics is incidental.

The challenge for the Establishment has been how to mislead each targeted group into abandoning the rational and decent, and embrace the irrational and indecent.

 

I just have to call that out; no everyone does not have a vested interest in freedom. Historically speaking the concept is a relatively new, Western one, and after the 1917 revolution has been in relative decline, and has continued to be in decline. And in regards to demographics, it was the founder of modern Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew said, "In multiracial societies, you don't vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion."

 

The R's still can fathom taking responsibility.

 

I'm speaking from the rational, moral, Americanist perspecitive.

An almost extinct perspective.

Of course there are always race hustlers and opportunists looking to skew things to their advantage.

Humans are pretty messed up... 'man's inhumanity to man'.

 

Well you called it: "an almost extinct perspective."

 

I'm long in the tooth... I grew up on freedom.

Kids to today are being spoon fed marxism and worse. It's sad to watch my country die like this.

I had hoped I could live out my days before America collapsed. Not to be.

 

Smells pretty sour in here.

 

At times they do; at other times they don't. It depends. They needed it in Arizona to keep Kari Lake out, for example. They won't need it in 2024 if Trump is not the Republican candidate.

I consider the Constitution gone already, as it is already no longer followed, unless you mean that government officials at that point will no longer pretend to recognize its existence.

 

Very true!

Another part of their tactics is to distract people with social issues, to keep fueling the flames of division and to keep the masses from uniting with each other under an economic banner to oppose the Uniparty, who is united under the economic banner of Wall Street and globalism instead of Main Street and nationalism. ---

This is why they hate Trump (and MAGA) so much, and why they want both Trump and MAGA destroyed. He represents true opposition to the corrupt corporate Uniparty system that hates the working class and sells out their jobs.

That's why they had to manipulate so many people into vehemently hating Trump. If people knew what was good for them, they would wholeheartedly support Trump in 2024. If the Republican Party were actually an opposition party that actually wanted to win, they would immediately change their electioneering tactics into (s)electioneering tactics (where applicable) in order to compete with the (s)electioneering tactics of the Communist Party. Voters do not matter anymore. Only ballots do... Ballots, and the printing, distribution, harvesting, adjudicating, and counting of those ballots.

 

Maybe true about House / Senate, unless GOP steers away from the authoritarian path. The White House, depends on who they run and who Dems run. Biden is not running, and Dems don't have many good options. GOP has good options, and bad ones. Of they run an authoritarian candidate like DeSantis, he might be rejected by younger voters and independents, but if they run a good conservative, I think the chances are good. Rand Paul is a solid conservative, and even after spending so much time bickering with Fauci, he is still a good candidate. And they have others as well who would be just fine as president.

As for 'fraud', - enough with the sore loser whining. There is no fraud.

Gen X is pushing 60 and even older millenials are in their 40s. Gen-Z and younger millennials and many independents didn't for FOR anything, they voted AGAINST authoritarian measures they see in the GOP at this time, and they'll do it again unless GOP learned from their 2022 mistakes. And its not a theory, or an opinion, its what they say influenced their votes.

 

Marxism and Communism are very sour things.

 

You are describing Democrats, dude.

No, it doesn't. It depends on whether or not R's change their electioneering tactics due to rampant election fraud.

He's already mentally unfit for office. My guess is that the DNC club wants Gavin Newsom to run.

Dems don't have ANY good options, but then again they don't need any because voters are largely irrelevant. Dems only need to be able to print, distribute, harvest, adjudicate, and count enough ballots.

With regard to national economic policy, which is all that really matters at this point, the GOP has one VERY good option and a whole bunch of shitty options.

If DeSantis is the candidate, R's will most definitely lose, as I (and plenty of others) will not be voting for him.

Even if they can't stop Trump from getting the nomination, their chances will be very slim to absolutely nil (unless new electioneering tactics are implemented). Democrats screamed "election fraud!", without evidence, for two whole decades before now, but now when there actually IS election fraud (and strong evidence for it), they suddenly start denying it.

He's a good senator, but I don't want him for President. I liked his dad more than him.

Fauci should be in jail for crimes against humanity.

No they don't. They all support the same build back better globalism bullshit that the Dems do. The Uniparty is lockstep in their anti-working-class national economic policies.

Yes there is. You are simply a denier.

Here you're just making schiff up, per usual.

 

No, I am telling you what younger voters said. They voter against the GOP and their authoritarian nonsense. This is not a matter of opinion, its a matter of fact. They reject criminalizing abortion, they reject government criminalizing speech at schools, they reject government going after corporations who disagree with government, they reject GOP forbidding legal pot from getting on the ballot. You should read what people said about the issues which influenced their votes.

Do you realize that everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, you say is based on some conspiracy theory. Your guy was voted out of the WH in 2020 and your party underperformed in 2022 and if they live in denial like you do, they will repeat the mistake.

Like I said, they don't have good candidates, but GOP has good conservatize non-authoritarian candidates.

Sheesh.........

DeSantis is the authoritarian option. He would win some States, but younger voters and many independents reject authoritarian politicians. He over played his hand in FL.

No. I am telling you why people rejected the "red wave", but it is what it is. Looks like they will double down on stupid, and then whine for another 4 years.

 

Some younger voters are not all younger voters. There are plenty of younger voters who vote Republican because they hate the authoritarianism of Democrats.

That belongs to the Democrats, dude.

No, you are just making schiff up, like you very regularly do.

Some younger voters are not all younger voters. Polling results can be very misleading depending on how questions are worded.

Do you realize that the entirety of the Democrat Party, and I mean the ENTIRETY of it, is ITSELF a conspiracy theory?

There was no valid election held in 2020.

I don't have a party.

Republicans did fine in 2022, especially given how much election fraud occurred once again.

Your issue, not mine.

2024 is "Trump or bust" for me, as he's the only candidate who represents Main Street and nationalism. I'm not voting for DNC club funded authoritarian communist Wall Street globalist Democrats, and I'm not voting for RNC club funded controlled opposition Wall Street globalist Republicans. Both parties SUCK... that's why I'm all aboard the America First MAGA Trump train.

In short: "It's the economy, stupid!" (that's a well known quote, I'm not insulting you)

I agree.

DeSantis has at least one major issue, but authoritarianism isn't it. DeSantis is the ultimate RNC-club-funded option meant to manipulate people and pull their support away from Trump. DeSantis 2024 is Cruz 2016... I can see the strings on the RNC club marionettes, thus I will NOT be supporting nor voting for DeSantis. I will be supporting and voting for Trump, who the RNC club despises, as I despise the RNC club.

He would win the States that still hold valid elections. IOW, the States that value the voter more than the ballot.

He just got done winning an election in Florida, once a "toss up State", by roughly 20 points. That couldn't've been done without strong support from self-proclaimed "Independents".

There WAS a red wave, but a good chunk of it ran into the wall of election fraud.

 

If you say so, but the ones who killed the 'red wave' were probably not Republicans............or were they.....?

You always say that when you don't like what you hear, but its not much of an argument. The younger voters DID SAY what I told you. You could look it up, but you are afraid to.

No, but it was enough of them.

You like to repeat your mistakes, but its your vote.

But he cheated, right? Isn't that your standard argument to everything?

 

"Wolverines!" LOL

 

Continued failing at logic.

Continued failing at logic. Continued worship of bad polls.

Continued failing at logic. Continued worship of bad polls.

DeSantis didn't cheat. Florida holds valid elections.

 

It must be nice to have a canned "fraud" response to disappointment when the elections don't go the way you want.

I get it though, knowing you back the party of losers that the youth, who are taking over the Country, want nothing to do with must suck ass.

 

Its not "logic". Its what they say. You don't have to believe it and continue to shriek about "fraud" and other conspiracies and repeat the mistake in 2 yrs, and then you'll shriek twice as loud

Its amazing, and they claim FL runs clean elections, but in 2018 they spent 2 weeks counting DeSantis votes and he ended up winning. Had he lost, they'd be screaming about "fraud'. I've never seen such sore losers.