Gig workers’ win in California is a victory for workers everywhere

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    The irony is just TOOOOO juicy not to discus.

    Source of original article: https://www.vox.com/2019/9/11/20851034/california-ab-5-workers-labor-unions

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    By making it hard for employers to misclassify employees as independent contractors, potentially millions of California workers who’ve been kept off payrolls will get basic labor rights for the first time, like overtime pay and unemployment benefits. This includes janitors, construction workers, security guards, and hotel housekeepers — and yes, this group also includes Uber and Lyft drivers.

    And here is the irony....

    Vox Media to cut hundreds of freelance jobs ahead of changes in California gig economy laws
     
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    william kurps Well-Known Member

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    Vox? But never mind, when didn't people have the right to join unions?
     
  3. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    william kurps Well-Known Member

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    Btw my eyes hurt after reading that toxic article, just saying..
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know a few people who drive for Uber to make extra cash and they HATE this idea. They WANT to work when they WANT to work and not under any scheduled hours and not under full time employment rules.
     
  6. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Seriously painful!
     
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    When the company the work for, denies they are employees.
     
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    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Or, when independence prefer to freelance. Apparently, freelancing is now a crime. WTG California!
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    There's nothing stopping all those contractors who lost their jobs from joining unions now!

    Success!
     
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  10. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Well-Known Member

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    Would you rather be a "freelancer" or an employee?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    The question you want to be asking is...

    Would you rather be a "freelancer" or unemployed?

    Your question is leftist fantasyland. My question is reality.
     
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  12. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    No reason that can’t continue.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what happens when you vote for Democrats.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    No it’s not
     
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    Kranes56 Well-Known Member

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    Does that sound like a just relationship?

    How about another way of putting this. A coin toss will determine if you're "freelancer" or the owner of the business. Which would you rather coin toss determine? If you're the "freelancer" or owner?
     
  16. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    The labor laws that apply to employees are the reason that can't continue now, and it's the reason why it's NOT continuing now.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if people said the same silly **** when child labor laws were passed?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    That's not how the real world works.
     
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    Once again California thinks they run the country
     
  20. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Whats not continuing? Did they go out of business?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Nah they just think California runs California. States rights!
     
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    william kurps Well-Known Member

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    Yet one still buys children's cheap labor products from Asia
     
  23. Bearack

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    Dependent on what I was needing. If you want independence, freelancing is your gig.
     
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    william kurps Well-Known Member

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    Lol one claims children's labor laws yet buy from cheap Asian children labor..

    Oh please
     
  25. Kranes56

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    Too bad so sad. I'm going to take it you know where I'm going with this. But I'm going to see if I'm wrong. Do you know where I'm going with this?

    That's not an answer to the question. Which job would you prefer? One that gives you access to benefits, or one that doesn't? Or perhaps just some random person on the street. Would they prefer to work a job that has access to benefits, or one that doesn't doing the same kind of work?
     

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