Gig workers’ win in California is a victory for workers everywhere

Vox will continue on using content from out-of-state contractors. What's out of business is all the former California contractors.

 

I guess if you want to take a poop legally in public, states rights to produce the bubonic plague!!!

Kill us all!!

 

Um, yeah! Per the law, companies have to reclassify freelancers to employees. You can no longer subcontract. That is why Vox laid these reporters off.

 

Vox is like bill Maher vice just huge left wing propaganda

 

Just many lost their jobs!

https://twitter.com/ms_andiloveall/status/1206705811042422785

 

How low can you go uber and Lyft drivers?

I only will take a taxicab driver

 

The choice between bennies job, and no-bennies job, almost everybody would prefer the job with bennies.

So the dumb California liberal politicians took that, and they tried to force the no-bennies jobs to become bennies jobs, and they killed both jobs in the process.

Profit!

 

that's ok, cali needs more dependent teet suckers to control...

 

And nothing of value was lost.

 

This is a major victory for the government. Increasing cash flow from workers under the guise of "The government cares about you" is effective in California. Voters here do not even care about results.

 

So close. If the person wants the benefits and other doesn't provide it. Now all we would have to do is add in some outside force making a person decide between the two, like money, and we have the recipe for an unjust system. Who cares about the economy, when it's an unjust system?

 

Is the cure not worse than the disease in this case?

The system is unjust, so we'll do something!

I'm all for fixing the system, but breaking it more isn't all that great of a fix.

 

Sure it does. I have a good job now, but if I needed to subsidize a new car, extra Christmas cash or just enjoy not have a schedule, I surely would love to freelance.

 

But that's the problem, when the system is all a person knows, and they become dependent on it, then there is no reason to change it. You're right, these shocks to the system are shocks, but that's why there are transition times written into these kinds of bills so these shocks are mitigated. It will work out in the end, but it won't be easy for everyone.

 

Would you be willing to lose your good job to a freelance position?

 

Why would I lose my job if I chose to freelance on the side? I think you are conflating the two as you can do both and love it. Many people do that today.

 

I can't read the article at work Isn't there a time limit?. I mean where I work, not in the USA, the employer can and do hire freelancer and external consultant, but they are limited to under a year contract. If the job to be done is to be longer than a year then they've got to hire somebody as an employee, either on a temporary year-to-year renewal basis or permanently.

 

Oh, the shocks will be mitigated, will they?

Tell that to the hundreds of journalists who lost their incomes, the thousands who will be losing their incomes soon, and the nearly half a million ride share drivers who be suffering the same "shock" soon after that.

 

vox is always laying off it seems, as are many corps, thanks to the Trump economy

from last year

"Vox Media Lays Off 50 Staffers, or 5% of Workforce"

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/vox-media-layoffs-50-employees-1202706362/

 

sure some did, same with ending slavery, same with overtime, ect....

 

Get woke, go broke.

Conservative media is booming in the MAGA economy.

 

I went through this as an IC at my current job (32 yrs)
I was an independent contractor for the first 10ish years, then the rules about IC vs employee were either changed and/or became better understood by my company. Basically I met most if not all the criteria for being an employee vs a contractor so the choice was really not up to us, but rather the federal IRS guidelines.

Basically, if these people meet the criteria as described, i'm not sure there is much of a choice in the matter.

Not up to snuff on this current 'thing' or how it was based before but this was a Federal (IRS) thing, not a Cali thing.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understanding-employee-vs-contractor-designation

 

if you haven't noticed, 1929 is coming again, republican trickle down policies have been a failure

 

All that would accomplish would be guaranteeing your freelance gig wouldn't last more than a year.

At least not for drone freelance jobs like ride share driver or hot take/clickbait writer.

 

You mean a unionized employee?