Globalism vs. Nationalism: The Most Important Issue of our Time

I agree. Globalism is happening and it isn't going to stop.
The question is, who will be the leader of the global world?
The globe is decreasing with technology.
We are all earthlings, we need to act as earthlings. Work to make a better world, not just a country.

 

GREAT POST.

 

Humans have been evolving for 1000's and 1000's of years. It is just the next step in human evolution.

 

The problem with your statement is that multiculturalism doesn't work. Everywhere on the planet where different cultures co-exist there is conflict.

If you want a better world, use your efforts to make other countries a better place instead of trying to bring America down.

 

Just about every major country in the world where business is conducted will speak English.
Why? Because USA had most of the goods others wanted.
They began their globalization when they started trading with us.
Trade and technology is going to globalize the world.

 

The term "Globalization" in the modern sense is used to describe a lack of borders.

Regarding trade, China is kicking our tails on trade but they are certainly not a globalist country. They protect their interests whether it be against japan in the south china sea or trading with America. China is also aggressively building up its military presence both conventionally and in space. They are certainly protecting their borders.

 

Can one of the globalists following this thread explain to me why they support globalization?

I don't want to hear that it is going to happen and it can't be stopped. I want to know what exactly is so attractive about it?

 

It will be a long long long time. But if technology continues to advance and we can travel the world faster and faster, we will all day be 1 culture. That is 100s of years off, IMO. But with technology advancing the world moves and evolves faster also.
But it won't be in mine or probably your life time.

I don't want to bring America down, but it must evolve and be at the head of the movement.
Going back into caves will get us left out.
If the whole world globalizes and America doesn't, we will become the 3rd world country.


BTW - this is a very new view of mine. Only months old, if that. I just sort of realized it.

 

Borders are going any where anytime soon. So I don't view globalization in that sense.
As I posted to you in my other post, this is a new thought to me. I realized it is happening, has been for decades. Nixon broke the ice with China 55 yrs ago or so. And has been advancing.

I also agree we get out butts kicked in the trade agreements. I haven't figured out why for decades, but now I see it's all in the name of globalization. The US gov't will have to take care of its citizens or there will be a revolt. And IMO, it's why welfare programs have become bigger. Keep the people happy and they can push forward.

Realize, China just emerged into the global world in recent decades. Walls don't come down over night. It takes generations.
How this will all look in 50 yrs, I have no idea, but it will not look the same as today.

PS - It's also why we have such an interest in the ME. And GWB purposely destableized the ME. So we can try to shape it. The west has been trying to shape it since before WWII.
A destablilzed ME, means no one can get control of the energy in the ground. Again, IMO.

 

I agree with a great deal of that and seek to create a method for American State Citizens to unify to use Article V properly. That amounts to preparation by amendment which educates Americans about the constitution. 1)End the abridging of the PURPOSE of free speech. 2)Secure the vote. 3)Campaign finance reform. It basically empowers Americans to educate one another about the constitution, because no authority can be trusted, elections are corrupt, and campaigns unfair.

I'm quite sure that when it comes right down to it, Americans can agree upon these definitions of constitutional intent.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Thirteen year old children have no problem with understanding them. Veterans love it. What is missing from your page is a method to unify ordinary Americans with agreement.

Citizens are alienated from one another and a superficial controversy of media invention dominates rather than discussion upon constitutional principle. This is all by design as far as I can tell. The inquires go past and below the controversy.

FYI, I've been working on defining the legal due process here,

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

for 6 years.

The reason for it was developed over the preceding 11 years.

 

Hamilton was to nationalism as Clinton is to globalism. Back then it was about unitary nations vs confederations and small states. Hamilton moved sovereignty one step up to the large, conglomerate nation state.

 

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

 

Hello

Read this articule if you are interested in worlds future
http://papug.pl/the-future-of-the-usa-china-russia-and-the-eu-in-8-items/

regards Patriota

 

I agree whole-heartedly with your sentiments. But one detail correction: Ted Cruz is not a globalist.

 

All of the great Enlightenment writers and the founding fathers knew that the more centralized the government the faster tyranny takes over. Globalism is the ultimate central government and would quickly rule tyrannically over everyone.

I agree with one point: without the deliberate work for liberty, tyranny is the natural progression of government. So unless we do something, it is coming.

 

I don't think the other nations on our world are ready for globalism. So all we are accomplishing in our politicians pushing it too hard is making us weaker while they benefit from our naivety. Our world would need a demonstrated common enemy to unify in any way significantly for a few hundred more years.

Yes.. Aliens. That would do it

Until then nationalism before we get an eviction notice on the White House door from all our 20 trillion dollars in debtors

 

Go ahead, Trump should use it.

The fat rich globalist elitist have Americans by the balls. All China, India and a few pother third world countries have to do is cutoff America of textiles basically clothing and shoes. With in years we all would be walking around butt naked.

What Trump should do is quote Alexander Hamilton.

America’s freedom is tied to her economic independence

 

Globalization is what is causing America to become a third world country.

Manufacturing job losses cause by the globalization of traditionally American companies turning into multi-national corporations has caused stagnating wages, income inequality and the racial division in America.

Globalization has caused the $20 Trillion dollar national debt because borrow and spending (including more government assistance to the poor) is the only answer the politicians have to a weak economy caused by the manufacturing job loses.

 

You are a good person doing good work for America but I think you are giving the American people way too much credit. Many Americans don't care what the Constitution says, the proof of that is in the politicians they vote for.

How can any person who votes for a Democrat believe in and/or understand what is in the Constitution?

 

I appreciate the comments and am glad to see you agree.

I disagree with you on Ted Cruz. He is a globalist as was the Republican Party before Trump showed up. Ted and the Rebumblicans help out the multi-national corporations but give the middle finger to the American middle class. The data (stock prices and corporate earnings per share, average household income) proves it.

The last known (at least to me) nationalist Republican was Pat Buchanan, who as it turns out, was decades a head of his time.

 

Noble sounding - but the way to carry out a global unity is not through the type of "globalism" currently being crammed down everyone's throat. Dissolving the middle class and supporting the rise of an elitist class of overlords doesn't lead towards your flowery vision. Creating and growing the "thought and word police" is hardly fostering harmony. Removing people's sense of security by targeting racial and cultural aspects of the citizenry to diminish and deem as "deplorable" only encourages tribalism.

The very visible outcome of Globalists is most certainly NOT peace, prosperity and brotherly love.

 

LOL Americans have this tendency to pick just one thing and villainize it. We pretend like there are no other problems and if we could just solve this one, we'd be fine.

 

America is so divided that I don't even think Aliens would unite us. We would just end up in an argument about what to do. And the world wouldn't unite, they would expect America to take care of them as they do every other problem in the world.

Those in power want to keep us divided because it allows them to continue to do whatever they want. If you compare everything the main stream media reports to the things it doesn't report, you will see that the things they report on creates division among the people and doesn't make make government look bad.

 

Yeah, that's why George Washington let the whiskey rebellion happen

 

So there is a secret media that influenceshe everyone because they are main stream, and nobody knows that they are secretly being manipulated to believe the things that left says? And that divides the country. And you learned about this from a news station that you are named after, and the news station is openly rightwing... and millions of people listened to it but that is not mainstream... so it can't divide the nation... wow man.