GOA files petition for Cert in SCOTUS against NFA

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  1. TOG 6

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    It can, and if the case get there, it probably will.
    HOW it rules depends on how the case is argued.
     
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    If it isn't required to make a firearm to function, and the function it enabled isn't restricted, there's no Constitutional reason to control them at all.
     
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    Funny story true story the only barrels that fit that gun are those made by the company with integrated suppressors.... so you're wrong but that's never stopped you before
     
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    I accept your concession.
     
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    That is a violation of forum rules....or so I have been told
     
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    And that means if suppressors are unavailable, firearms will not function?
     
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    What have I conceded?
     
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    For perhaps the 10th time now: For those firearms that only function with barrels that are integrated suppressors such as the example I linked you? YES.
     
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    There are no such firearms, as any suppressed barrel can be replaced by an non-suppressed barrel.
    Barrel: essential and integral to the function of a firearm
    Suppressor: not.
     
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    Suppressor: legally a firearm.
     
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    Irrelevant to the point I made.
     
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    Which is itself irrelevant with regards to the OP.
     
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    See link already provided one of many examples of an integrally suppressed barreled weapon.

    Also as another poster has already pointed out : since suppressors are "firearms" by law it is in fact essential to the operation of a firearm: the suppressor.

    Which is what makes it so perfect: the slimy little **** gibbons and their fudd enablers get hoisted by their own petard
     
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    A suppressor is not an integral part of a functioning firearm, period.
     
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    It's legally a firearm itself according to ATF.
     
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    Then there is even less legitimate reason for it to be subjected to restrictions under the national firearms act.
     
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    Understood, I don't agree, but that is the rule for now.
     
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    I hope the NFA is overturned, though I doubt it will be.

    It was, from the outset, designed as an end run around the Constitution that never should have survived judicial review.
     
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    The USSC is changing and if Trump gets the chance if RBD retires, there might be a chance the NFA in it's entirety gets tossed out the window.

    It would be an interesting change in the direction of gun banning, when the liberal anti-gunners wake up and discover they not only failed to ban the AR-15, but the M4 just became legal for private ownership.

    Talk about liberal heads detonating.
     
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    Is your disagreement that it's a firearm, or that the ATF considers it as such?
     
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    That ATF considers it such.
     
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    The ATF also went on the record as stating it believes a shoelace is a fully-automatic firearm.
     
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    In regards to NFA 1934, it's listed as a firearm type on the Form 4. I don't see how it gets more unequivocal than that.
     
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    Then you totally missed my point.
     
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    No, they did not. Bump firing is not illegal.
     

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