God And Job And Suffering: All Is Well That Ends Well

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  1. JAG*

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    We hear a lot about God and Job's sufferings. The book of Job has 42 chapters
    and some 99% of the verses talk about Job's sufferings. However nobody
    knows how long Job suffered and some interpreters think it was a relatively
    short time. Some think Job suffered for a few months and others think Job
    suffered only for days.

    To the best of my knowledge all the events in the book of Job could have occurred
    within 30 days. If so, then Job suffered a very short time.

    But here is even better news: After Job suffered and endured his testing, God, in
    His Mercy and Grace gave Job MORE than he had before he was tested, and then
    God gave Job 140 years of the good life.

    Its reasonable to believe {based on the narrative in Job 42} they were a happy and
    blessed 140 years.

    "The Lord blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the former part." Job 42:12

    "After this, Job lived a hundred and forty years; he saw his children and their children
    to the fourth generation. And so Job died, an old man and full of years." Job 42:16-17

    Bildad correctly predicted the happy restoration of Job when he said:
    "He {God} will yet fill your mouth with laughter
    and your lips with shouts of joy." Job 8:12

    So?

    So God's Mercy and Grace restored Job and he had MORE blessings than
    he previously enjoyed and then God gave Job 140 happy good years. And
    even more important than that, God gave Job eternal life in Heaven. Job was
    an Old Testament believer that reaped the benefits of the blessing of John 3:16
    which says that God loved the world and gave His one and only Son that whoever
    believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    God restored Job and God has a Plan to restore the world. God has a Plan to
    fix the world that men have messed up. What kind of Plan is it? The Cross. What
    kind of Person is God? The kind of Person that will die on a Cross because He
    loves the world and desires to restore it. So what kind of Person is God? The kind
    of Person that leads from the front, where the pain is.


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    Sure ... whatever ...

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    The Bible repeatedly compares suffering to a woman in birth pains which are short but very intense.

    For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us...

    ... For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.


    Romans 8: 18 & 22
     
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    So . . . murdering children is okay as long as you provide some replacement children?

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    Fun stuff
     
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    When I read topics like this that mushroom here at the evil end of the age... I know there is much more suffering ahead for many.
     
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    looks like the god who can't plan ahead. best to avoid...
     
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    Any word on when he plans to start?
     
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    Regarding mere men who for an absolute certain FACT are destined
    to end up as one of the following , , ,
    {1} Worm food -- to be eaten by worms if you are buried in the ground -- later you will become worm-feces
    {2} Animal-feces if eaten by animals
    {3} Sea-creatures-feces if eaten by sea creatures (eg. if shipwrecked}
    {4} Ashes if cremated.
    YOU are absolutely going to end up as one of those described above.

    So?

    So little puny banty rooster humans destined to be either ashes or creature-feces
    ought to have some humility when they speak about the works of Almighty
    God.

    JAG
     
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    Here is what Almighty God says about so-called human intelligence:

    "The wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent
    will vanish." Isaiah 29:13-14
    {see my post just above this one -- to find out one way it will vanish}

    "And God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.{James 4:6}

    JAG

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    Regarding those puny banty-roosters destined to become creature-feces
    or ashes, but who nonetheless, sit in Judgment on Almighty God:

    "Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker, those who are nothing but
    potsherds among the potsherds on the ground"
    Isaiah 45:9

    potsherd - a shattered fragment of pottery especially one found on an
    archaeological site


    JAG


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    Regarding those who sit as The Judge on the Sovereign God
    and pass judgment on Him with regard to what He does or does
    not do:

    "All people are like grass,
    and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
    the grass withers and the flowers fall,
    but the word of the Lord endures forever.”
    1 Peter 1: 24-25


    JAG


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    Here is Samaritan's Purse delivering food and supplies to people who need help.
    Samaritan's Purse whose motto is "Helping In Jesus Name" is a HUGE worldwide
    Christian Organization that actually lights a candle instead of burying themselves
    inside Threads inside Thread World on the Internet At Large and in one form or
    another "cursing the darkness" instead of getting out there and lighting a candle
    like the thousands who work for Samaritan's Purse do every single day by , , ,

    , , , bringing food to the hungry and medical supplies to the sick and other
    supplies to those who suffer from natural disasters.

    God has a Plan to fix the world and in His Grace and Mercy He allows millions
    of us Christians (and others too) to help every day to do exactly that.

    Christendom has many Christian Organizations that are out there making the
    world a better and safer place every singe day:

    Here is a list of 4 of them:

    ■ Catholic Relief Services {a huge organization}
    ■ Joni And Friends
    ■ The Salvation Army
    ■ Saint Jude's Children Research Hospital

    Samaritan's Purse -- annual budget $665 million {2018} -- higher in 2021

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    Samaritan's Purse out there lighting a candle instead of cursing the darkness.
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    Posting pictures of hungry children does not feed hungry children -- but the HUGE Christian
    Samaritan's Purse Organization DOES feed hungry children -- somewhere in the world every
    day.

    JAG


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    Catholic Relief Services helping in Jesus's Name , , ,
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    Lighting a candle instead of cursing the darkness.

    JAG


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    Christendom is going to fix the world.
    God has a Plan to fix the world.
    The Lord Jesus said, "I am making everything new" Revelation 21:5
    And He will do exactly that.

    God's Plan to fix the world is via changing one human heart at a time
    until the world is Christianized -- "go and make disciples of all nations"
    the Lord Jesus commanded His disciples when He gave us The Great
    Commission at the end of Matthew's gospel and then the Lord Jesus
    explained the POWER behind the Christianization of all nations -- He
    said that all POWER has NOW been given to Him both in Heaven and
    on Earth , , , "therefore" He said "go and make disciples of all nations"
    teaching them to obey His commands. You'll find The Great Commission
    in Matthew 28:16-20

    No power in the universe can stop these 4 Powers below , , , ,
    {we will make disciples of all nations} Matthew 28:16-20

    {1} The Power of The Cross.

    {2} The Power of The Resurrection {the Empty Tomb conquered Sin, Suffering, and Death}

    {3} The Power of The Ascension "I go to my Father"

    {4} The Power of The Exaltation {Seated at the right hand of His Father God Almighty -- the
    place and position and Power -- the same Power that spoke worlds in to existence -- the same
    power that created the 10/24 stars. {the estimated number of stars in the Universe}

    Victory!

    JAG


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    I fail to understand why a god would need people to help him help people.
     
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    I guess because it isn't for him, but for us. The poor need help. And so do we if we are poor in compassion.
     
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    Think of all the 1000s of gods who have been worshiped by people just as devout as you, they have all faded away in to nothingness, if lucky they exist now only in history books or as a cartoon character in a Hollywood movie like mighty Zeus and Thor. Fading away until completely forgotten until no one even knew they existed in the minds of mere men, that has been the fate of all gods!
     
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    Regarding one instance of human suffering: The book of Job
    describes Job's severe sufferings -- but , , , ,

    "In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing."
    Job 1:22


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    What's up with the hard questions?

    The fairy tale says that God's will will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Therefore, it should be obvious to the religious that God delights in people starving or else he would have given them food. When Christians give starving people food they are going against their deity's will, who specifically wanted those particular people to starve.
     
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