God tells you to kill your son

Not symbolic--the real flesh and blood of Jesus. See John 6. I do what Jesus tells me to do and I don't "walk away" from him because it is a "hard teaching." You can call it "cannabalism"[sic] but that is just a smart-mouth mocking bait tactic. He is the Paschal Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. You'd be wiser to mock by calling him Mutton, but it's still disrespectful and rude on many levels.

 

Its not really rude, just stating the obvious. Seems to fit the definition perfectly.

Definition of CANNIBALISM
1
: the usually ritualistic eating of human flesh by a human being
2
: the eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of the same kind
3
: an act of cannibalizing something
— can·ni·bal·is·tic adjective
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cannibalism

 

However, what is amusing is the avoidance of the question. A direct question taken from the Bible, however it is dismissed because I didn't include a lengthy back story to the question (irrelevant).

I guess there is something unanswerable in taken your child out back, with intent to kill, knowing full well that god may very well not come down from the clouds and yell "Physc!!!!!".

 

No actually, you have dismissed and completely ignored the back story of Abraham as provided by several posters. Its just ripping something out of context.

So, we'll see how you like it.

If a man told you to kill your brother would you? Well, plenty of atheists did in the Russian Revolution and preverse display of warped psychosis. Yet you have no issue with men doing this because God once asked and stopped aman to sacrifice his Son to show the impunity of temptation to the devil of the truely faithful.

But when we get spun up on revolutionary zeal? Convince ourselves that religion is bad and begin the purges ... well, somehow THAT is better?

Are we to take the lesson that murder is rationalized by atheists? Or the standard stuff? That ignorant atheists with chips on their shoulder puruse Bible quotes from atheist web sites and then pass themselves off as experts on our faith to crap on people to make themsleves feel better about themselves?

You wear your super victim cape with pride - and that is a shame.

 

You people claim to know the mind of God? What he will do and why? This is based on your interpretation of a 2000 year old book translated and transliterated, edited, added to and removed from that was written in a language not spoken by the people it was about by people who never held audience with the protagonist?

Bible says

Matthew 15, Jesus says

Fulfilling:

Tell me again what the mind of God will think to do...

 

I love it when someone takes up the dictionary to show their point. Well, notice above that the definition you provided contains the word 'ritualistic' --taken from the root word 'ritual' derived from the root word 'rite'.

So in using the term cannibalism and its definition you have also brought to the surface a trait of the Atheists who perform on this forum on an almost regular schedule (daily); performing their own rite(s) of ridicule and dehumanization of anyone that makes a public confession of faith (faith in a religious sense). So, yes Atheists perform rituals. Almost like those cannibals seen in movies -- a stranger wanders into their part of the forest and without cause -- the cannibals launch upon those strangers and perform the ritual of throwing them in the kettle to be boiled alive and then become the next meal for the entire group/tribe/clan . Thanks for that definition, as it did provide a means of describing the actions of some Atheists.

 

Now look up transubstantiation.

Ignorant.

Why do atheists think this kind rude BS is a sign of anything other being rude? How is that our fault?

Do you guys really think taking a religious concept and spinning it into something absurd to mock people is a good thing?

 

You are ignoring the obvious as always.

 

I was actually curious to see what the definition was, and as it turns out, it was quite fitting.

I am happy for your imagination, very few could conjure up such a fairy tale.

 

Numbers 3: 13

Because all the firstborn are mine; for on the day that I smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the firstborn in Israel, both man and beast: mine shall they be: I am the LORD.

(It gets a bit weird)

 

What is amusing about it? You declare that it "is a question taken from the Bible.." yet you have taken the subject matter completely out of context. How so? Simple.

Abraham was confronted with a situation that in his time was the present (the then 'here and now'). He was not confronted with something that might happen in some remote imaginative future. You are asking the people to step into that imaginative future into a completely imaginative future and present an answer of how they would react to the same circumstance. Your entire question deals with nothing more than imaginations running wild.

For someone who promotes the ideology of staying away from the practices of the Bible and dismissing the teachings of the Bible as being imaginative, you are certainly making a showing of your propensity of creating your own myths. Have you ever considered taking up fictional writing as a means of providing a living for yourself? Well don't because you will never produce a best seller with your tactics.

 

No one mentioned the Russian Revolution, and at the moment I quite simply don't care.

You are missing the point and following through with one of your vicious rants, again. My question was, if god told you to killed a close family member, would you do it? Tell me where this drifts from the account told in the bible. Oh wait, you can't. Other than some back story where god did everything for Abraham, which is irrelevant to take your son out with intent to kill him. It is fundamentally sick. Parents do that today, and what happens to them? They go to prison.

Also, why in the hell would a being that created all space and time care about the loyalty of a single human on a single planet in a single solar system in a single galaxy. How vain is that? It is pathetic. However your blind faith prevents you from seeing the obvious.

The question is straight forward, and simple to understanding. Any short comings on the answer is your fault, not mine. Just put yourself in Abraham's shoes, with all the context and mumbo jumbo you wish, and answer the question. Realizing there is a 50% chance your god will not come down from the clouds and say "Phyc".

 

Another blatant avoidance.

 

LOOK at the text............

Numbers 3: 13

Because all the firstborn are mine; for on the day that I smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the firstborn in Israel, both man and beast: mine shall they be: I am the LORD.

(It gets a bit weird)

 

The only blatant avoidance is yours in the fact that you are avoiding the fact that you have taken the whole story of Abraham out of context with regard to the details of the story and placing those details in relation to the here and now.

 

It is not out of the context, god ordered him to kill his son.

What was done before is largely irrelevant to the question.

 

Then your question is largely irrelevant, because your question is based on "what was done before". Secondly. Your question is out of context due in part to the opening line of yours above. "..god ordered him to kill his son..." God has not ordered anyone on this forum to kill their son (at least none that are willing to admit to such thing), Therefore, your question is as I stated before,,, a hypothetical scenario,,, delving into the depths of the imagination and requiring one to venture into speculation... NOT KNOWLEDGE (knowing).

 

The question is straight forward.

If you have an issue with providing an honest answer to a direct question, then refrain from spamming my thread.

 

Well, there was a time when bedouin tribes sacrificed their captives to their gods because they certainly couldn't afford to feed them..

I think that perhaps what you are questioning is the transition to monotheism and more modern concepts of God.

ALL bedu tribes once carried their gods from place to place in boxes on litters.

This story of Abraham and Isaac may mean the end of human sacrifice...

 

That may be true, however, a metaphorical interpretation is very broad. It could mean any number of things. Just as with Nostradamus.

 

Be honest with your questions and you will in all likelihood receive honest responses. Be cabal in your questions and then you can expect the type of answers you receive from me.

 

No it isn't.

#1 - The question is not, why did God order Abraham to kill his son, your question is what woud you do if God ordered you to kill your Son.

#2 - that is why the background is necessary, because you see, God isn't going to order an atheist (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bag to kill his Son - in fact, the Bible (as I am sure your expertise on the Bible is well awar of) is filled with specific commandment AGAINST human sacrifice and the context of this one case, in all recorded history, is about a specific context of God proving the power of faith over the devil.

Do you really think God would use YOU, or any other deliberately ignorant (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)r, to prove the power of faith? Really?

In other words, God would never ask you to do this - which you would totally understand if you read more than one sentence of the Bible ... taken from an atheist web site.

I mean, the opposite is just as good as well - I mean I go to the Catholic Church to earn about atheism

You keep defending your ignorance, those that have read the Bible an dunderstand its message know ignorance for what it is.

 

I wouldn't, because my sense of right and wrong is not based on following orders.

The background paints God as a pretty nasty fellow. Maybe you'd be better off ignoring the background.

But that is precisely what he did.

 

obviously.

 

Are you unable to see the various and multiple ethical issues concerning the character you follow? You keep making apologies for a story instead of just addressing the question.

I know full well that a god would not request such an act of myself, if I started hearing voices I would immediately be concerned for my mental health and seek treatment. I certainly would not consider it to be a divine message. Simply the misfiring of multitudes of neurons.

The question is for theists. Not so much the atheists, note the poll, there is an option for non believers. The question is very simple to understand and easy to answer. Would you do it? Note how it like the myth in the bible, you could just as easily read it as "If you were Abraham, would you do it?".

Easy.
Simple.
Straight forward.

However, instead of answering the easy question, you choose to go on lengthy and vile tangents riddled with personal insults to make yourself feel better about whatever in life that is making you feel small, powerfulness, or insignificant. Perhaps it is the shackles of religion that have been placed on your wrists?

I must say, the atheists here are quite noble. Instead of stooping to your level and throwing personal insults, the raise issues with the belief, the faith, the philosophy, rarely the person. Running circles around your imagined argument as you thrash violent while foaming at the mouth. You may take such questions of the bible to be a personal attrack, however, it is not. That is entirely your issue.

You are the first and only person on my ignore list. I imagine the absence of your long and hateful posts hasten the speed of page downloads on my Droid.