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  1. delade

    delade Well-Known Member

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    What does HE really care for?

    Does HE put humans before HIMSELF?

    Would HE let go of Himself so humans can be helped?

    What does HE really care for?

    The Holy Bible says to judge in righteousness. With righteous Mercy we are to have and show mercy. How about unrighteous Mercy? Unrighteous Mercy is not of God, is it?

    If I continue to say HE is doing nothing, will HE continue doing nothing? If I continue saying HE is not assisting, will HE keep not assisting?

    Is God, The God of The Universe a kind of Person who responds as if HE is a non living Person? Like some kind of light switch a person has to know how to turn on or off using correct 'configurations'?

    No.

    So if a person were to say HE isn't assisting, why would they say that in the first place?
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how more often I need to say this, but if others, apart from myself, are continually getting hurt, and with me involved as well, how is God assisting?

    I might understand how I might feel as if I was being 'hurt' if my life was contrary. If although I claimed to be a believer to live as an unbeliever. But if after that I changed my way, and became aware of my faults and tried and lived to turn away from my own personal evil to do good and I continued to be 'hurt', then how is God involved or assisting?
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    God would be 'strange' if HE was like that. If when a person was to turn from their own evil and begin to do good, that God would not assist in their life. Sin? What 'sin', the transgressing of The Law had been handed to the Gentiles, anyway?

    For a hidden 'sin'? Show to me where the Gentiles were held responsible to upkeep The Old Testament 'laws'?

    At first the Gentiles say that the The Old Testament Laws are obsolete. Now are they going to say that they are not?


    The entire New Testament, with Epistles, share how a Gentile should live as believers. Not which Laws of God should be kept.

    The Laws of God were handed to The Jews through Moses.


    You know, had the U.S not been so lax in their life 'standards' I would think that Immigration would not be an issue today.

    Why do you think that the U.S. is an International 'hot spot' to travel and visit to? Because of all the 'new things' each visitor is able to see and behold.

    Why do you think Singapore is such a 'hot spot' to travel and visit to? Because of all the 'paid for sex' any horned person could desire.

    So if Singapore or The U.S. is more of a 'hot spot' for tourists and visitors, why would any Godly person or Church even need to be in there? It would only stifle their tourism industry.


    But the question is still unanswered. Then WHERE and HOW can a person leave? And with what 'help' and with what 'assistance', even when God is asked for assistance and help.

    Why would any person NEED to go through daily unnecessary troubles even AFTER they have asked to be separated from those things... Why would God need to keep such persons around in those places? For what reason?

    Why would a sex worker in Singapore NEED to be kept in that place if he or she asked God to help him or her be in another place, even another Country if need be so he or she can live away from those things? Why would God keep such a person there?
     
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  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ROFLMAO

    Lemme guess, 20something, a bit confused, angry and self-esteem problems.

    BTW, any power capable of creating the entire Universe would transcend gender so "God" isn't a "he" nor a "she".
     
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    I mean what the heck is HE doing? Did HE fall asleep? Is HE enjoying those places where these persons also ought to be to freely live without those 'things' to their own well being?

    it might not be a 'sin' but it sure as heck is life debilitating.

    And what about the U.S. citizen that might feel the same way or are going through the same things? How are they going to receive 'help and assistance' from God?

    Ever tried to 'escape' the inner City 'housing'? How are they supposed to be able to free themselves from those places and with what are they able to free themselves from those places if the entire place, maybe even The State, is condoning the way that place is being run?


    It would be like forced imprisonment.

    It would either be that The Local laws and Policies are corrected or the individuals need to relocate, right?


    And for this reason, I continue to ask, 'what is really important' to your own life? To be within those sorts of places or to not? But if you choose to not be in those sorts of places, you would need to upkeep and maintain your own uprightness in the way even if might have friends or family that are not. Because one day, they might be over there and you might be over here, but they are still your friends and family. This goes in both directions. Parents might be separated from their children and the children might be separated from their parents. It's up to them, both parents and children, to decide if they would be able to live without each other IF this sort of separation was to occur.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't know? Maybe you should take a class on it in college.
     
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    What could be so 'wonderful' that the only way to live that life would be if you were separated from your family? What sort of opportunities are those?

    What sort of 'life' would that be that required you to be separated from your family to live? A life with food? A life with night life? A life with movies? A life with travel? A life with the 'other crowds'?

    Are those 'other crowds' so different that your family members are leery of? Is it 'crowds' or is it 'person'? So it's a crowd. Then, I guess each of them have also chosen the same for themselves..

    So you want to be a part of that crowd... But keep in mind that when and if the separation of those that want to live more 'normal' daily lives from those that want to be within that 'crowd' life occurs, that the family they might need to lean on and receive helps from would be from within that 'crowd'. Both financially as well as emotionally. And they will be like their own community. Separated from the those not like themselves.

    The 'Manson Family' can be used as an example. But this time around, when the separation occurs, there would be alot less intermingling within those places that the 'Manson Family' was able to 'creep into'.

    To these certain types of 'ones' such as the 'Manson family', the reason why they feel no fear in committing murder is because they actually do not see or feel that to do such goes contrary to what makes them comfortable. In other words, it doesn't phase them more than a soda might to a soda drinker. But soda to others might not be very appreciated.


    It might be just another 'day event' they might be in the 'mood' or not to do.. That 'innocent' about and to murder. Their concept of 'murder' has become that innocent although on the other side of the spectrum. Most children know that murder is 'wrong'... On this side.. On that side, the innocence is to 'not know' that murder is wrong.

    And alot of kids and youths and even adults are buying into this.

    Murder is within the concept of 'morality'.. But who is to say what is 'moral'? Law does not dictate 'morality'.. It dictates crime and Illegality..

    But when Law enforcers and Judges begin to listen to the 'morality' of the criminal and begins to pass merciful judgement based on their 'morality definition and ways', that is unrighteous mercy. And this 'unrighteous mercy' causes them to have 'unrighteous mercy' when they do what they do and are pleaded with for 'mercy'.


    Look at what's happening to the Constitution... Look at all the 'mercy' people are crying out for from the Constitution. If granted contrary to the Law of Constitution, then the Constitution becomes an 'unrighteous provider of rights'.
     
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    Guilt............
    over our own failure to do many of the things that we know we are perfectly capable of doing........

    Ezekiel 22:30

    "And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none."

    People with a Messianic calling on their lives..... don't just happen.......
    they volunteer for the role...... after they come of age and can understand what they are getting themselves into.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101679/jewish/The-Personality-of-Mashiach.htm
    Before we were born...... all of us volunteered to come back as ourselves again and again and again and again and again..... in non-linear time......
    as duplicates of each of us are made.........
    and we are here in a sense..... to try our best to save G-d.......
    but religious people kind of get this turned around......

    ...... before we were born as human.... we truly loved G-d with all of our heart, mind soul and strength..... but then we incarnated... and forgot.......



    Could God the Father be the most emotional being in the universe/ multiverse?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A near death experiencer was shown that there are 14 Elohim.... seven male and seven female.......

    Genesis 1:26


    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

    She was shown that each and every human who is conceived... ... has one of those 14 Elohim inside of them....... our personality, identity, memories and character...... as well as the number of hairs on our heads are recorded on something far, far, far beyond the hard drives in our computers.......... even those things are pretty amazing.....


    Jeremiah 23:20

    "The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly."

    Jer 30:24

    The fierce anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it."

    These mysteries could not be known a thousand years ago...... only in the true latter days could these mysteries be understood......
     
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    what kind of 'mindset' does one have to hold a personal 'vendetta' grudge for a good majority of their life years? Spending 20 or 30 or 40 maybe even 50 years of their 'life' seeking 'revenge'.

    Who does that? spending all those years chasing after a rainbow?


    You do know that some rainbows land on streets, right? I had the blessing of seeing the 'one side' of the rainbow from where it began. It started on a street. I didn't believe it could have been since the 'spot' was less than 6 or 7 inches in diameter. But when I looked up to follow it, it joined itself to the rainbow.

    The 'spot' looked more like a light oil patch, water mixed in with oil, after rains abate.

    Scientists say that oil and water do not mix nor can it... God says with HIM, all things are possible.
     
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    I'm a NDE'er and I didn't see God with a gender. :)
     
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    If you come to God only for the hope of getting things from Him, like getting assistance, that is you being selfish and you seriously need to question your motivations for coming to Him in the first place.

    God can make my life better or He can make it worse, none of that has any affect on my faith.

    The only thing I ask of Him is that He can find some use for me in His grand plan, so that in a very small way I may prove my worth to Him.

    I know my rewards are waiting for me in Heaven, this world is meaningless to me.

    If He wants to throw me in prison for the rest of my life just so I may be able to find that one lost soul He is trying to help then I say, "let's go".

    Being a Christian is about assisting Him, not Him giving us stuff.

    He tells us clearly what our rewards will be for eternity.
     

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