Good guys with no guns more successful at stopping bad guys

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  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    No, as I said perhaps over 40 years ago, sometimes you must kill in order to eat.
     
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    You are wrong again.

    Guns are not the problem, Criminals are, and taking Guns away from the law abiding is not the answer.

    The U.K. is proof enough, or you lot would indeed be quite safe......
    Giggle.....
     
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  3. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    A factually incorrect, argumentative position that has no basis in reality.
     
  4. flogger

    flogger Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy to live in a society where the fear of such a devastating attack on my person will not require the need of an instant lethal response. I,m sure 99.9% of my countrymen and those of other developed nations share this view
     
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    No I hit the nail squarely on the head
     
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    Everyone is certain of themselves and their position, even when they are devoid of a factual basis.
     
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    Compared to you we are massively safer thank you
     
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    Except for the simple fact that such was not done. There is no basis to support the claim being presented by yourself, and no evidence has been presented that would actually support such.
     
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    The relative numbers work for me just fine
     
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    So do you have evidence that we want to kill for food over here then despite our supermarkets ?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't it funny how the Russians love to spread propaganda against the United States but never admits to any faults of its own?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-21474931
    Thousands of women in Russia die each year as a result of domestic violence, according to official estimates. But despite many years of discussions, domestic abuse is still not recognised as a crime and this hampers help for the victims, reports BBC Russian's Oleg Boldyrev in Moscow.

    Anya has a lot on her mind. In a small, sparsely-furnished room, she is trying to get her two boys, aged four and seven, to take their afternoon nap.

    It is not the easiest of tasks at the best of times, and is even more difficult in her temporary home - a room in a shelter for women victims of domestic violence.

    Her story is typical. During her seven-year marriage, she was frequently beaten or verbally abused.

    She lived in fear, not knowing where to seek help. When at last she decided to lodge a complaint with the police, several years ago, she was told little could be done about her husband as "it was his home".

    "It's been a nightmare, but a silent one," she says.

    "For a while, I couldn't leave my children alone, and couldn't go to the hospital to report my injuries. Then I was waiting for the children to grow up, so they could confirm to the police what had been happening. Then I started to make recordings, I taped what was going on.

    "But it's no use. The police don't want to deal with it. Once, a policewoman came in and said: 'Why don't you just run away like I did?' So even policewomen have to deal with this…"

    Anya divorced her husband two years ago, but, unable to afford her own home in Moscow, continued to share the family flat with him.....


    And it's getting worse:
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/01/23/russia-bill-decriminalize-domestic-violence
    Russia: Bill to Decriminalize Domestic Violence


     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do Russians abuse women so much? Maybe if women had access to handguns, they could find justice.

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    So, nobody hunts anymore ?
     
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    Most of Russia outwith its major urban areas is nothing like first world ... its violently racist sexist and homophobic. I know I've been there. Its in no way comparable to the US or indeed any other developed country .... and then theres the corruption and gangsterism. Citing Russia in your defence of the indefensible is lame in the extreme
     
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    So you can see another glaring example if any indeed be needful, that firearms are not a significant factor in crime and criminal activity, you cannot reduce or prevent crime with gun control, you need to prosecute and punish the guilty.

    Criminals, certainly not law abiding citizens.
     
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    You would know........
    Chortle.....
     
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    The Vegas shooter was a law abiding citizen exercising his right to own an armoury that would have stopped a major Zulu attack ..... until the day he decided not to be
     
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    Not defending violence, just curious why Russians always spread negative propaganda against the US but never admit it themselves.
     
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    I do not have a problem with, never did, you seem to have a small problem, as you brought it up in a public forum and in the wrong area.....

    Chortle....
     
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    By all accounts so was Timothy McVeigh.

    On another note. I'm guessing you don't have any stats to refute my post at #386.
     
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    Agreed. The highly slanted and negative propaganda spread by foreigners, Russian sympathizers and other anti-Americans should be confronted whenever met.
     
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    ...and all of those Hollywood celebrities busted for raping and assaulting women.
     
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    Like many of the antis that want others to do the heavy lifting, pick up your meat in a grocery where someone else does the killing and butchering for you and you pretend that no animals were harmed.
     
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    Russia is pretty much a dictatorship and dictatorships do this to deflect their peoples attention away from themselves
     
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    Irrelevant. Demonstrate the basis for your claim that hunting is based on a desire, even a love, for the act of killing, and that it could not possibly be any other reason.
     
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