Good guys with no guns more successful at stopping bad guys

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting that you admit it. Do you also admit that China is a dictatorship? Venezuela?
     
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    Please cite me ever defending dictatorships ?
     
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    flogger Well-Known Member

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    Killing for fun rather than out of necessity is barbarism in my view
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you the questions about China and Venezuela? You're not required to answer, but your refusal seems to indicate the answer to your question posted above. That and your continual foreign attacks on the US regarding our rights and culture.
     
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    Healthier food with fewer chemicals and preservatives.

    I have a good friend whose children have severe food allergies and chemical sensitivities. As a result, he provides his family protein through hunting, and all natural food he and his wife grow themselves. The end result is perfectly happy and healthy children.
     
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    I hunt to provide healthy meat for myself and my family, and to hone my hunting, tracking, and outdoor survival skills. You might call such "barbarism", but I have a very different view of it.
     
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    Interestingly, I know a British expat who now works as a rifle engineer for one of the premier firearms companies in the U.S. He detested the UK laws, and emigrated here specifically because of them.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Nothing else, eh? Not criminals? Just, guns don’t like women?
    As did I
     
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    After coming to the US, I, was able to get through college by hunting/fishing for subsistence and for profit. It fed me, and others, and I made a better than average living off it through six years of school. If I did it for the thrill of the kill, a lot of game would have likely escaped wounded; if I couldn’t guarantee a quick humane harvest, I didn’t take the shot. I know few hunters, none in fact, that hunt for the purpose of killing anything other than paper, most are ardent believers in conservation and appreciate nature. Those that propagate your narrative are either naive products of propoganda or active participants in trying to vilify Americans.
     
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    Where is the basis for concluding that hunting is done for the sake of fun, rather than out of necessity?
     
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    Another total FAIL.

    The NRA publishes monthly (with references) cases of a person with a firearm stopping a criminal. They publish about a dozen cases a month. Pretty much blows away your entire claim.
     
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    So you have much fewer desperate predators than we have here in the U.S. and your continuing solution ?
    Systematic disarmament of the people less likely to cause trouble and mischief.
    What a great solution for you lot.
     
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    As we know, when camping out in very remote areas, hunting becomes a necessity, some of the best meals I have ever eaten were prepared in the wild open spaces, of course I had a pack of condiments and a few sauce pans and a nice dutch oven, however, I had a horrible meal in a Restaurant last night, and my worst prepared meal in the feild was better by a factor of 10 !

    It was over cooked and not at all good.

    Meat raised in the free range is way better and as others have mentioned, free of hormones and chemicals and antibiotics.
     
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    My challenge remains. When have I ever supported dictatorships ?
     
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    Naahh its just barbarism. You like to have to have fun with it and downplay that essential truism but the vast bulk of others in the civilised world dont
     
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    I really dont believe that but if its true then good riddance I say. Our country is much safer without such a lunatic
     
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    Simple observation. There is nothing forcing you to kill other than your lust to do so
     
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    It certainly is given our relative murder and violent crime rates
     
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    Well its certainly not working given the declining average life expectancy in the US ! :roflol:
     
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    Cite the factual basis that supports the claim being presented by yourself. Otherwise it is nothing more than a continual violation of forum rules, and will be reported as such.
     
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    Go right ahead. You guys perversely kill wild animals en mass for fun/sport and nothing else. Prove me wrong ?
     
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    Prove yourself to be correct. Both about the position related to hunting, and about myself being in the united states.
     
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    Answer my question ? Why do you want to kill your wildlife for fun ?
     
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    The above demonstrates a deliberately limited, willfully uninformed view on the subject that is being discussed.

    In the united states, as well as in other nations, hunting is an absolute necessity for population control of various species. If hunting was prohibited, the population sizes would quickly grow out of control, reaching levels that nature could not possibly support. This would quickly result in the available food sources being exhausted, leading to large percentages of the populations dying starvation, spreading diseases, encroaching on human territory, being struck by motor vehicles and putting innocent people at risk, as well as increasing insurance premiums. This does not even factor in the risk presented by predator species as opposed to prey species. Animals cannot refrain from reproducing on their own, so their population must be controlled by the species that engages in logical thought. It is the most humane option that is available.
     
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    I was taught hunting by Native Americans, Indians, and they said nothing about killing being "Fun" instead, they talked about respect for the animal that gives it's life so one can eat.

    Giving thanks for food.

    All animals are killed before they are eaten, and in a way that it suffers not.

    As a boy I remember being at a farm, and the folks that ran most things, were away, so only the ladies that could cook, but not dress meat remained, so, I had seen it done, I was almost ten, so I started boiling water, killed 4 chickens draining the blood, plucked and burned off the pin-feathers etc...

    Then the ladies cooked them, best meal I ever had. ...

    I told the story at school, about the farm, and was asked why didn't we go to a supermarket ?

    The poultry farm supplied the local market...
    lol
    Most people do not understand farms or hunting.....
     
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