Good Ole Joe Biden Is Pro-Worker

WHY can't they?
If you lack a skill, go to a trade school and learn one in night classes, then move into a better job. Those schools are usually very cheap.
Or- go to someone with a business that does what you want to do; convince them you will be a hard worker and fast learner, and start as a helper or apprentice.
I have a son-in-law that started as a welding shop helper at 18. Today he's 50- and the general manager over three factories that produce specialized metal products.
He simply was a standout from day one; that got him recognized and promoted over and over. The head-hunters that find executives for big companies still bring him offers regularly- and he has no college education. Just one hell of a performer. Business are always looking for that, and it's hard to find. Make yourself such a person- and jobs will come to you, offering gold.

In my first business I had a foreman who wanted me to hire his brother- kept telling me jobs were so hard to find, brother was desperate, bla-bla. The discussion came down to that alone, and finally- I said, I could go out right now and get a job today, and I wouldn't use my background or anything to like that to qualify me to get one. He laughed at that, and my response was- Bet $100 I can't? He said no. So I said, how about I do it without leaving my office?
He took that one. So, I took out the phone book and started through the yellow pages, looking for businesses that might fit the role of employer- particularly where I could talk directly to the owner or boss. Started making phone calls. I got two firm commitment to jobs that day, and a long list of people who asked me to come in.

The reason I could do that is simple. I didn't ask "whadda ya pay" or crap like that. (His brother would have) I told them I was a hard worker, a quick learner, that I was totally reliable and that I could help them make money. In other words, I convinced them that I was what they needed and were looking for and I wanted to work for them and prove it. Positive attitude, in line with the needs of the employer. They see this so rarely that they jump on it like they found a gold coin on the beach. I could get a job at a place that had a "not hiring" sign on the door too- and I could tell you or anybody how to do this. Most of them wouldn't, because they lack the ambition and character it takes... and they are looking for the easy button. That however, is something within their control- not the result of society shutting them out. A business is not a social service agency, it is there to make money. Be a factor that helps them do that and doesn't bring problems along with it, and they would be a fool not to hire you. Of course, if you are unwilling to prove yourself to be the person you say you are- you won't last.

I'm not denying that times can be difficult; hell I lived in a storage shed one winter because I was dead broke, uninsured and had a cancer that required surgery. There's always a way- but it takes something more than an "I can't" attitude to pull it off. Anybody could- but most will not. WHY should I feel sorry for the person who sees working for a living as slavery and unfair- when he has far more advantages than I do, and thinks I owe him a ride?

 

Again, they have little savings and rent and bills must be paid.

 

And if they don't do anything to improve their capacity and value, if they don't learn to manage finances better, they will never gain ground. That is nobodies fault but their own- the consequences of their own decisions and the expectation that someone else should compensate. Nothing can be done to help people who refuse to help themselves.

 

I don't disagree but all shops and workers aren't as you describe. I worked sheet metal back in Chicago when I was very young; UAW. Our attendance policy was very strict, and I saw more than a few workers terminated for tardiness and missing days. Our performance standards were tied to weekly bonus pay, which didn't necessarily weed out underperformers, but it provided incentive for the vast majority of us.

I agree with you though about having the upper hand regarding work stoppages. I think we'd do well to study how countries like Japan deal with the worker/employer paradigm; FWIU, workers are treated as valued equals, not adversaries. I'm not opposed to legislation that evens the playing field with regard to union strikes. It's something we should consider.

 

Are you talking about Lunch Bucket Joe, a guy who never worked a regular job one day of his life? Was it his dream of everyone having a living wage why, with a stroke of a pen, overnight took away the job income of probably 20,000 to 30,000 jobs, and for no particular reason other than a thorn up his ass over anything that someone tells him is fossil fuel related.

 

You can have any job available to you and where I live many jobs are available. Why is this so complicated?

 

Living in a storage shed with cancer and most likely little heat? Wow you sound like you have lived a hard life. Did you beat the cancer? I'm assuming so.

 

We have hundreds of pipelines and Joe only kills the Keystone Pipeline cause people say Keystone Pipeline bad.

Joe killed those jobs for no good reason at all. He does not care about the working class at all.

 

Because you guys can't seem to understand its not that simple.

 

From wiki.

In 1969, Biden practiced law first as a public defender and then at a firm headed by a locally active Democrat

So I guess public defender is an elitist job then.

 

I guess it would be if you inherited $400 million. Wait...it's so confusing. Smh at Trump.

 

With all do respect such a number does not exist, for it is a constantly moving target,the chasing of which only creates inflationary pressures, joblessness, and eventually hopelessness and death in an ever expanding circle.

 

Some people live in a homeless shelter if they have to but work to save up money. There is always options.

 

You cannot promote the general welfare by stealing from x and giving to y.

 

To a tax on the "wealthy" is a tax on everyone.

 

What stealing?

 

Taking money from x without his permission is theft by definition.

 

Taxes aren't theft.

 

Excuses are for losers. This town was essentially shut down for 2 years during the mid eighties. Even then I always managed to find just enough work to put food on the table and pay the bills. There were jobs I turned down. While my unemployment was still coming because financially I couldn't afford the pay cut.ost of the businesses I worked for and a lot of the ones I applied to no longer exist. And that's on both ends of the pay spectrum.

By the way crap flows both ways. I was taking a marketing class at the local junior college some time before that. As we were all standing about battin' the breeze after class one evening, one guy was complaining that his workers didn't seem very loyal. I asked him what he paid, he said minimum wage but it seemed like about the time he got them trained they went somewhere else. I asked him if he gave them a raise once they made it through the training period. He asked why the hell should he do that, and I told him I suppose because maybe he was getting tired of training staff for his competition?

Given that the job is almost invariably paid for by the tax payers yes.

 

A debatable proposition at best.

 

Not at all, you use govt services you pay for them.

 

aand the people getting most of the government services pay nothing.

 

The government will pay for trade school.

 

I had some furniture there, including a sofa, a fridge and a microwave. Bathed in a janitor sink that was in a service closet on the end of the building, so I got by. Negotiated terms for the surgery, got a great break from the doc- and fortunately, it never came back. So many people aren't that lucky; I;m grateful to be.

 

What happens in the long run is that if you fail to pay people what they are worth, they leave- and your business loses. It does work both ways, but just as it's hard to keep a job if you don't produce, it's hard to keep help that produces if you don't reward them fairly. But of course- that's how it should be. The real trick is finding good people so that there's no need to micro-manage everything- and drive yourself nut doing it. Good people are always in demand, but we have a lot of people who don't know how to make themselves valuable.