Goodbye Past, Hello Future: Turkey 'Drifting' From NATO to Eurasia

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  1. goody

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    Germany deliberately provoked a crisis in Berlin-Ankara ties which may have added significantly to Turkey further distancing itself from NATO, Turkish military expert Soner Polat told Sputnik.



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    Germany Accuses Turkey of 'Entry Ban' in Latest Spat Between Ankara and Berlin

    Earlier this week, local media reported that the Turkish court ruled that Peter Steudtner, a German human rights activist, among a group of six human rights activists being held that includes Amnesty International's Turkey director Idil Eser, should remain in custody.


    The activists were detained by the Turkish police over allegedly aiding a terrorist group on July 5.

    German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said that Berlin will reconsider its economic policy towards Ankara as well as its credit, investment and tourism programs over the arrests of human rights activists in Turkey.

    Turkish authorities have already detained thousands of journalists, diplomats, judges, members of the military and human rights activists after the failed coup attempt of July 15, 2016 over their alleged support for exiled Islamic preacher Fethullah Gulen, accused by Ankara of being behind the coup.
    In an interview with Sputnik Turkey, Retired Rear Admiral of the Turkish Armed Forces Soner Polat berated Germany for intentionally fueling a crisis in bilateral relations which he said is an important factor in the process of Turkey's separation from NATO.

    "Turkey is moving slowly but confidently towards Eurasia even though it is a painful process. It would be naive to think that Turkey, which has been a NATO member since 1952, can easily and painlessly distance itself from the alliance. The statements made by Germany will by all means affect Turkey's position within NATO," Polat said.

    He added that "right now, there is a cautious and negative attitude towards Turkey in the West" and that "the growth of this trend was even more apparent after the failed coup attempt in Turkey on July 15 last year."

    According to him, "prejudice and hostility against Turkey are in place in the territories from Australia to New Zealand, from Europe to the United States, something that is disguised as opposition to the Justice and Development Party, as well as to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan."

    "The main goal is Turkey itself, and Erdogan is described as a person who bears responsibility for everything. Germany consciously decided to aggravate this crisis by deliberately provoking tension in Injirlik. After all, what would have changed if German MPs visited the Injirlik or Konya air base? Everything indicates that these crises were artificially provoked," Polat said.

    He noted that the opposition to Erdogan became the key point of Europe's internal policy.

    "The Netherlands and Germany currently follow the example of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson who conducted his Brexit campaign in line with confrontation with Turkey. Preventing Erdogan from delivering a speech at the G20 summit is a big scandal. Turkey is drifting away from the West," Polat pointed out.

    He described Germany as "a Eurasian country" which he said "should take more rational steps and act in a more balanced way [with respect to Turkey]".

    Polat also recalled that "if Berlin and Ankara break off relations, Germany, which has a trade surplus with Turkey, will suffer more damage."

    "German authorities make statements that imply, in fact, interference in Turkey's judicial system. Everyone should understand that Turkey is not Greece, Iraq or Syria. And if they do not understand now, sooner or later they will," he concluded.


    In late May, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Ankara will not allow German lawmakers to visit the Incirlik air base as long as Germany takes steps against Turkey.

    "Germany negatively looks at Turkey, and now they say: 'We want to come to Incirlik'. Germany must understand that Turkey, which it can force to do what it wants, and to get what it wants from it, exists no longer. This remains in the past. In such conditions it is impossible to allow German parliamentarians to visit Incirlik," Cavusoglu said.

    SOURCE:https://sputniknews.com/amp/world/201707221055785107-germany-turkey-relations-nato-policy/

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    The underlined bold parts are quotes from a guy who got "IMPRISONED BY ERDOĞAN's" government by forged documents and made up evidence. He served 6 damn years in prison after got forcefully retired by Fethullah/CIA cliques in the government. Today he supports Erdogan just like we do because Erdogan is now our MONTEZUMA!

    I hope this finally helps some deep morons understand who the fcks in charge of things in TURKIYE.

    We are the descendants of METEHAN, and sons of ATATÜRK... We are the future!

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    So neither the US nor the EU can do anything but weak shitty threats like trashy ghetto hillbillies... let alone pathetic Jermanic tribe Hitlerist barbarians being funny by bitchin from a distance... Their lips move but we don't hear what they are sayin... Lol...
     
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    Goody, what if the US wanted to get rid of Erdogan, and they gave the Kurds full support in establishing a homeland ...even supporting them within Turkey. Wouldn't this discourage Erdogan's followers? If Erdogan fell from grace, and something happened to him, who would take over? Would it be a more nationalistic leader?
     
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    This coming from Sputnik news***yawn***, and we will see if turkey leaves Nato....it won't.
     
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    Sorry but you asking such question shows your comprehension level because the US has already attempted to get rid of Erdogan, and that's not happened just for once. We've blocked all attempts well because the Cortes strategy is the most rational one for the time being and we like to keep it this way till we get started with the next phase. So we never allow anything to happen to our president. He's no longer the Turkish puppet of District of Columbia. He's been our president. If god forbid anything happens to him then one of the Turkish Putins have been waiting for duty will take over. Simple as that!
     
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    Sputnik got it from an interview with a highly influential patriot. S400s are on their way. Cry.
     
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    Great, send me a pic when they get them!?!:juggle:.
     
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    The problem everyone has with Turkey... is this slow slide towards dictatorship and authoritarian style rule....obviously Turkey is not immune to the instability spreading across the middle east, providing Erdogan with the excuse he needs to seize control and rule with an iron fist violating human rights on a massive scale... of course countries like the US New Zealand and Australia will speak out... we always do... we will not be silenced.

     
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    Pretty predictable. NATO was formed to counter the immense power of the USSR, and that was part of why the Turks became so close to the West.

    It's not some Duginist vision of Eurasia coming together, it's good old bland geopolitics as usual.
     
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    I have never been comfortable with Turkey having access to our military technology anyway. If they stay they stay; if they go, they go.
     
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    If Turkey leaves NATO maybe Russia will invade.

    Edit: never mind, if Russia invades they will have to go through Georgia (the country).
     
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    Nahhh. The body count would be too high, the Turks aren't pushovers!
     
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    Very interesting Jicklette. We don't claim no immunity but just warn that if we go down, we take the entire "world" with us. Not the region, not the EU, not the West, not Russia, but the whole fckin world and I'm pretty sure that our counterparts in different countries who have been in the region for land grabs do know this as a concrete fact. Karlov taught it to Russia, the coup of July 2016 taught it to the US, a little bit of refugee influx taught it to the stupid Europeans. Britain understood what we were trying to point out immediately and just said bye bye to the Union. I think everybody understands each other perfectly here :)

    By the way your "3 dots" are actually cute and reminding me of somebody called Jiji... Lol...
     
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    Hahaha... Really? David Ike says reptilians will do. Lol
     
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    But not the Palestinians....naturally......that would be murder :)
     
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    I wouldn't be worried about them if I were you because it wouldn't make any sense to vomit stuff about lands when you got back to pre67 borders... Lol...
     
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    You know what naaahhhhh means in Turkish?
     
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    If they keep moving in their present direction, they will not have to leave NATO
    .........................................................They will be EXPELLED :omg:

    Pentagon Furious
    After Turkey Leaks U.S. Base Locations in Syria:
    “Hard Not to See This as a F-You


    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentag...syria-hard-not-to-see-this-as-a-f-you/5600217


    From the Article:
    "The move – which exposes the exact locations of American soldiers on the front lines
    in the war-torn nation – has sent the ongoing feud between the two NATO allies to new
    ................................................................................................................................................ lows."

    &
    "Needless to say, the Pentagon was furious.

    &
    "Last week, a senior Turkish official told Bloomberg that Turkey had agreed to
    purchase a missile defense system from Russia, a move that could jeopardize
    Turkey’s relations with the Western security bloc. "
     
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    Bye Turkey.

    Not really interested in NATO anymore so. Carry on.
     
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    Also troubling is the abandoning of the genius of Kemal Attaturk who made the Turkish government secular, and the rise of Islamic stupidity. ( I regard all religious fervor as stupidity).
     
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    AMEN :mrgreen:
     
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    Who cares about Turkeyy? Whats next? A topic about Somalia?
     
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    Well, the Ataturk's Turkey is dead, the Erdogan's Turkey sadly belongs with middle eastern medieval dictatorships which as you correctly stated is where it's drifting.
     
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    Agree, Turkey is not a North Atlantic country, and NATO is useless anyway.
     
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    Well, Turkey is a Middle Eastern country, and it is not as medieval, as Saudi Arabia. I hope that most Turks who live now in Europe will eventually be able to return to their homeland, when the confrontation between the Turkey and the North Atlantic countries increase.
     
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    There's a separate thread about this.
     

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