Google in Russia

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  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's happening, bit by bit, the return of censorship in backward Russia.
    News reports state that Google must comply with censorship restrictions
    in Russia. This is, of course, because the West is full of liars - except for
    the Useful Idiots and Russian Sympathizers.
    But I have a question - does anyone know what words are being banned
    on Google searches?

    In China of course you won't get far typing in "Tienanmen Massacre" or
    "Censorship."
     
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    Just typed "putin f*cks trump in the ass". Still works. No problem.
     
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    Re brainwashed, according to the BBC.
    I believe the BBC is rather leftist itself.
    Some friends of our traveled through Russia in the 1970's
    during what was the "Cold War"
    Ordinary Russians (not the ruling class) would stare at
    their clothes and ask to feel the texture. The guides with
    these Australian friends would tell the Russians that
    these people belonged to the "ruling class of Australia."
    This was pure deceit - my friends were middle class
    people who had poured their savings into this trip.

    Truth be told, the ruling elite of Soviets, the NomenKlatura
    hid from the Soviet Union the extent of poverty in the
    nation, and the extent of class divisions.

    Yes, Russians have been brainwashed. You can say
    that other people are brainwashed too, but it's a matter
    of degrees. And Communists literally invented the term
    "brain washing." Quote Wikipedia "The Chinese term xǐnăo
    (洗脑,literally "wash brain")[9] was originally used to
    describe the coercive persuasion used under the Maoist
    government in China, which aimed to transform "reactionary"
    people into "right-thinking" members of the new Chinese
    social system." It was first seen in the Korean War.
     
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    Russia doesn’t ban words or phrases. It bans websites and it doesn’t want google or any search engine to even return the website in results.
    Hundreds of thousands of websites are already blocked in Russia.
    In Russia you can do real jail time for sharing or liking a post in social media.
     
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    In China you won't get far at all because Google.com is blocked.

    They have their own alternatives heavily controlled by the state wherein citizens are given social credit scores and ranked by their private info.

    They're 10-20 years ahead of us.
     
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    The West may be headed to the control being installed in Russia and China.
     
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    Democracy dies in darkness.
     
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    how she alone is 'backward' at something the west has done all these years?
     
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    Russia has been "backward" for a long long time.
    When the West bans something on the Internet
    my understanding is that it's crime related. In
    Russia it can be banned for being politically
    related.
     
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    don't make up stories, okay?.. i well remember Western tourists visiting CCCP and they were not that different from the locals for someone here to want to touch their clothes, and there was no such notion here about the West's ruling class to ever want to visit our Soviet country.
     
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    You got any proof of that or is this yet more of your juvenile anti-Russia crap?
     
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    no, it has never been that, get your facts right.
    for example, every image of normal life in Russia or any positive news from there has been banned in the Western media where your allowed only to see Putin, the Kremlin and snow - lots of it, as if there's no summer and the winter is the only season left for the country; hence your anti-Russian views, btw, and such views could be formed only through intensive and systematic brainwashing, as you just demonstrated by comments above.
     
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    Russia has generally been one of the most backward of European nations
    in terms of technology, income, innovation and social progress.
    Any Australian earns more on welfare than the average Russian earns in
    a reasonably well paid job.
    I went to one, just one, Russian technology expo - I was shocked at how
    primitive that technology was. The level of castings on tractors for instance
    reminded me of what we produced in the 1950's.
    See many Russian imports in your country? There's some good Russian
    stuff like the airframes of their fighter planes - top stuff. But don't be surprised
    to find its electronics runs on vacuum tubes or primitive copies of Western
    microprocessors and stuff.
    Russians stole the secrets to the Concord (one guy got some metal scaps
    onto his silicone shoe soles and whisked them out of the country) but the
    end result was the Concordski. The Soviets couldn't charge first class
    tickets on it so it went bankrupt - just as well, it was a really dirty and very
    dangerous plane (wear headphones please!)
     
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    No photos of Russia are banned in Western countries. My family went
    there and brought back tons of them. Westerners love some of those
    old Russian village scenes with horse drawn carts and women drawing
    water from wells. Picturesque to be sure, but it's Backward.
     
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    Prior to 2012

    • Blacklist entries as of June 2017 by agencies responsible for the entry
    In 2004 Russia pressured Lithuania, and in 2006 Sweden, into shutting down the Kavkaz Center website, a site that supports creation of a Sharia state in North Caucasus and hosts videos of terrorist attacks on Russian forces in the North Caucasus.[5][6]

    • During the December 2008 demonstrations in Vladivostok,[7] it was reported by the Kontury news website that FSB officers issued a request that moderators of the ru_auto Internet community remove stories about the protests. The major reason, as reported by a moderator of the resource, was that repeating posts containing information about the protests worsened people's attitudes. The moderator in question requested bloggers to publish only unique posts about protest actions.[8]
    • In December 2009, Internet provider Yota, with over 100,000 subscribers[9] blocked access to some Russian opposition Internet resources for its Moscow-based subscribers for a few days. This occurred after the chief prosecutor of St. Petersburg recommended that the company prevent access to extremist resources. The only Internet resource listed as extremist by the Ministry of Justice of Russia at the time was that of the Caucasian separatists, KavkazCenter.ru. Since the evening of 6 December 2009, Yota allowed access to all previously blocked resources except KavkazCenter.ru.[10][11]

    2012

    • On 8 April 2012, it was confirmed by Roskomnadzor that several Russian and English Wikipedia articles had been blacklisted.[12]
    • In July 2012, the Russian State Duma passed the Bill 89417-6, which provided a blacklist of Internet sites.[13][14] The blacklist was officially launched in November 2012, despite criticism by major websites and NGOs.[15]
    • The IP address of Lurkmore.to (Lurkomorye) was blocked on 11 November 2012 after a decision of the Federal Drug Control Service of Russia; the owner of the site told journalists he did not receive any communication from Roskomnadzor or the Federal Drug Control Service before the IP address was blacklisted.[16][17] Lurkmore.to was removed from the blacklist on 13 November 2012 after the website administrators deleted two marijuana-related articles.[18]
    • The IP address of the Librusec online library was blacklisted on 11 November 2012.[19] According to a leaked copy of the blacklist, it was blocked for a description of marijuana soup in a Russian translation of The Anarchist Cookbook.[20] The IP address was unblocked on 13 November after The Anarchist Cookbook was removed by Librusec administrators.[21][22]

    2013

    • On 31 March 2013, The New York Times reported that Russia was "Selectively Blocking [the] Internet".[23]
    • On 5 April 2013, a spokesperson for Roskomnadzor confirmed that the Russian Wikipedia had been blacklisted because of the article, "Cannabis smoking".[24][25]

    2014

    • In March 2014, in the midst of the Crimean crisis, the LiveJournal blog of Alexei Navalny, Kasparov.ru and Grani.ru were blocked by the government. These sites, which opposed the Russian government, were blocked for "making calls for unlawful activity and participation in mass events held with breaches of public order."[26]
    • 2 December 2014 — Supreme Court of the Russian Federation bans jw.org
    • In August 2014 a number of websites were blocked as the war in Donbass developed, including the Ukrainian news site, Glavnoe.ua,[27] a survey about the separation of the Caucasus from Russia[28] and numerous announcements and commentaries about the "march for Siberia federalisation".[29]
    • In 2014, a media blackout was launched against a performance art project called Monstration scheduled for 17 August. Roskomnadzor issued warnings to fourteen media outlets for reporting the announcement.[30] The project was compared to Euromaidan, which led to the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.
    • In October 2014 Roskomnadzor blocked the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine site, well known for its Archive.org website.[31] A number of websites listing blocked addresses was also blocked, including such as Zapretno.info.
    • In October and December 2014, a popular source code repository, GitHub, was temporarily blocked for hosting a page containing (mostly) satirical suicide instructions, frequently used to troll the Russian censorship system.[32]
    • In December 2014 a Facebook page protesting an event against the prosecution of Alexey Navalny was blocked in the Russian Federation. A Roskomnadzor representative stated that the page was blocked because it promoted an "unsanctioned mass event".[33]
     
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    2015
    • In January 2015 a number of Bitcoin related websites were blocked (including bitcoin.org) because "it contributes to shadow economy".[34] In February, Bitstamp was unblocked.[35]
    • In February 2015, Russia blacklisted "Children-404", a website providing Russia's LGBT teens with an outlet to anonymously share their personal experiences with one another, for allegedly violating the country's law against promoting homosexuality.[36]
    • An on-line article by Yulia Latynina in Novaya Gazeta was blocked for unspecified "extremism", most likely a suggestion that "Russian culture only became great when it mixed with European".[37]
    • After a Russian consumer protection watchdog OZPP published a warning for Russian tourists about possibility of being denied EU visas after visiting Crimea,[38] explaining that from the international law point of view Crimea is an occupied territory, Roskomnadzor blocked the OZPP website "for threatenting territorial integrity of Russian federation".[39]
    • In June 2015, some ISPs blocked the Internet Archive entirely following an order to censor a page contained within for containing "extremist" material. These blocks were a side effect of the site's use of HTTPS possibly being incompatible with how ISPs implement their filters.[40]
    • On 21 July 2015 the official website of Jehovah's Witnesses was banned throughout the Russian Federation. Jehovah's Witnesses say that the motion to ban them was originally filed on 7 August 2013[41] but was overturned after they voluntarily removed certain publications from the version of the site presented to Russian IP addresses.[42] However, on 2 December 2014 the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation overturned the Regional Court, stating that the Witnesses might choose to reinstate the materials they had volunteered to remove.[43]
    • On 12 August 2015 the whole of Reddit was blocked in Russia by Roskomnadzor because of a post made by a Reddit user on the site. The post is a guide for growing Psilocybe mushrooms. The block was lifted on next day after Reddit complied with Roskomnadzor's demand of blocking access from users in Russia to the specific post.[44][45]
    • As of August 2015, 4 Wikipedia articles remain blocked in Russia, and more than 25 were blocked for some time. Most of these articles are related to drugs and suicide.[46]
    • Rutracker.org blocked in Russia, 2016
    • On 25 January 2016 Rutracker.org, the biggest torrent tracker in Russia and CIS countries, with about 13 million users, was permanently blocked by Roskomnadzor as a result of a decision of the Moscow City Court.[47]

    2016

    • On 28 January 2016, pages related to the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation were blocked on Archive.is when accessed through non-encrypted traffic. HTTPS traffic to the website was blocked entirely.[48]
    • On 4 August 2016, a Moscow court ruled that LinkedIn must be blocked in Russia because it stores the user data of Russian citizens outside of the country, in violation of the new data retention law. This ban was upheld on 10 November 2016.[49] and the ban was officially issued by Roskomnadzor on 17 November 2016.[50]

    2017

    • In January Dailymotion was blocked[51]
    • In 2017 an image of Putin as a "gay clown" was added as item 4071 on Russia's Federal List of Extremist Material,[52] as a result of a 2016 legal case against social media activist A. V. Tsvetkov.[53]

    2018

     
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    she was advanced in space and energy supply technologies among many other things.

    as for income, what about expenses? CCCP had education and healthcare provided for no charge, thus setting standards for the rest of the world, in addition to CCCP being the first country in history of mankind to grant women vote.

    same goes to social progress. CCCP was most advanced in it.
     
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    i did not say countries, i said western media.
    it isn't because you would be hard pressed to find such things in Russia, unless you indeed go to certain villages where mostly old folks are left to die. Russia meanwhile is all in its cities and towns - this is what your afraid to mention.

    as for what do 'westerners love' - it must be wishful thinking or seeing only what they want to see while in denial of reality?
     
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    Look, I loved that Russia did in the late 1950's to mid 1960's in space.
    Don't get me wrong.
    But Sputnik came about because Russia knew the West was about to
    put a satellite into orbit - and got their Germans to beat the West.

    I absolutely love Russian jets, particularly the Sukhois.

    But giving women the vote was one thing (I think NZ and Australia got
    there first) but Russian women, with few exceptions, have never been
    able to vote for real opposition parties. You vote for the Communist
    party- so what's the point of a vote.

    I wanted to take a bike across Russia ten years ago. I got travel
    advice and figured it would be a) the dumbest thing you ever did
    and b) maybe the last thing you would ever do.

    WHAT THE HELL ????!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Try Googling 'travel russia' and click on Images.
    You will see Moscow, St Petersburg, Sochi, Novgorod .....
    Looks lovely, fabulous colored domes, rivers etc..
    Not hidden. Open to tourists.
     
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    that resource is long since unblocked, why did you conceal this fact?
     
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    for copyright violation reasons, why did you keep quiet about that?
     
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    WTF post 18 - you don't seriously think I'm going to plough through all that do you?
     

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