GOP Rep. Boebert: ‘I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk’

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  1. cd8ed

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    That you feel your made up religious beliefs should be pushed into the public square paid for by the taxpayer shows this narrative is the enemy of a free people.

    You are only winning by judicial fiat by a court that was illegitimately installed from a congress and president that never received majority support which is rapidly turning people not only away from Christianity but from religion as a whole.

    As always, you people push these battles only to ultimately cost yourself the war. I look forward to its demise.
     
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    Of course i would expect it of anyone who is educated, it's the stuff of academia/civil education, taught from grade school throughout college.

    The only persons I've seen who are denying it are MAGA folks, and they are not conservative, they are plum crazy.
    As long as that 'moral belief' doesn't include bigotry, i.e., a tort or crime.

    There is nothing moral about bigotry.
     
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    No, but one teacher argued that he/she (I forgot who it was) argued that she could conduct a prayer, but not openly, which is to say, reserve a minute or two for students to pray, collectively, quietly in private, to themselves. If anyone didn't want to, they merely would bow out. I suspect they could get away with that much. But, asking students to recite the lord's prayer, that's for sunday school, not a public school.
     
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    Is it bigotry for someone not to want to participate in a ceremony which violates their moral belief? Is it immoral to believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman? You are declaring anyone who holds that believe to be an immoral person?

    But you prove my point about how it is taught, it is not just the side that says religion has a role in government it is those who believe government has a role in religious beliefs and can sanction people based on their religious beliefs and my moral belief that get it wrong.
     
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    No the teacher nor the school should be conducting religious ceremony in the school during school time with students. There is no DIRE need for students to pray at school but if they want to they can do it on any spare time they have briefly to themselves. They are free to pray in the morning before they go to school they are free to pray as soon as they get out of school. The government school should not have anything to do with it.

    A student in a public school should NEVER have to bow out of a teacher trying to conduct a religious ceremony, they should never be put in such a position with a teacher.
     
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    Atheists believe there should be no church in state.
     
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    Fake News - SCOTUS ruled that this does not violate your rights.

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    Fake News. This move among some of the Left to forbid everything they don't approve of is really wearing thin. This is rapidly turning people away from the Left as a whole. I look forward to you experiencing the peace of simply accepting the rights of others to freely express themselves and worship according to the dictates of their conscience.

    And this wasn't a close decision. 'The decision specifically protecting what is called the “Bladensburg Peace Cross”' was 7-2. Are you, with a straight face, actually claiming that SEVEN members of SCOTUS are 'illegitimate'?

    Preposterous!

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    No church at all? That is nonsense. I do hold a religious faith, tagged as atheist, and I support and would defend your right to practice your religious faith and ceremony. Just do it in your dime and your time and keep it out of government and government out of it.
     
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    Are you saying you're atheist but have religious beliefs?
     
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    No are you saying atheist don't have moral beliefs?
     
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    Atheists have moral beliefs. Atheists' main moral belief is the hatred for Judeo-Christianity.
     
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    Showing you know nothing about atheist but especially about me even though my previous post should have given you an idea.

    And besides that would be an emotional opinion not a moral belief.

    What moral beliefs do you, I am assuming your are of a religious faith, believe you hold that we do not share?

    And why exactly do you believe atheist, I am assuming you mean the vast majority since that is the one thing you picked, leterally hate the Judeo-Christianity religious faith? What are your reasons for making such a statement?
     
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    Prohibition against murder comes from the 10 commandments, LONG before the bible.

    Marriage limited to a man and a woman came long before the bible.
     
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    I don’t care about your book club. A law with no logical foundation shouldn’t exist
     
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    Im an atheist, not my book club.
    Laws against murder and marriage limited to men and women BOTH have a logical foundation.
     
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    Not all atheist, but unfortunately most. And too often a desire to convert everyone to their religion.
     
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    It really is interesting to see the breakdown.
     
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    Atheists' overarching hatred for Judeo-Christianity?:worship: I mean, it can't be atheists' belief in science.:roflol:
     
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    Atheists' hatred for Judeo-Christianity seems to be the best explanation for atheists' beliefs.

    Ask an atheist if they were formally Catholic, for example. Ask an atheist if aliens could've created the universe, for example. Ask an atheist who or what created the universe, for example.
     
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    I don't think that is an accurate statement. Atheism does not demand hatred of others. It is simply the belief that there is no God.
     
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    You seem to be having difficulty stating some moral belief you hold that you believe I do not.
     
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    Oh FFS.The right has just as much control in this country as the left politically. Nobody is “destroying the family concept” except those who dont agree with your version of it. YOUR church is still open isn't it ? Just make sure you keep it out of OUR government. I do NOT care if you worship tree frogs as a deity, you dont get to use that “belief” to effect me thru government.

    And you are a proponent of Donald Trump, so you may want to sit out the Constitution conversation
     
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    Sheer projection. Nobody destroys The Constitution like the left. They even openly admit they want 2A gone and are taking steps to moderate free speech as #TwitterFiles is currently exposing.

    and you think Trump was the issue? lol

    all the messes we have in this country can be laid directly at the feet of about everyone in office and not the guy in Florida, spending his days golfing and doing rallies. Even more directly, at the feet of the far left and The Democrats in charge right now.
     
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    This is some Jonestown level propaganda

    The left doesn't want the 2A gone, they want sensible gun laws. There is a grand canyon full of difference between what you claim and what the left wants.

    Trump literally just said that we should pot a hold on the constitution so he could be re-elected. Last I checked, Trumps not a liberal. And its now being reported that more classified docs were found in a storage unit Trump had ? Glass Houses anyone........

    Did you even read the Twitter files, because your post CLEARLY shows you didn't. BOTH sides got posts removed. And FTR, I do believe that social media has a responsibility to stop the lies and falsehoods that are propagated via social media. Their is no right to lie in the constitution, and lies that effect elections need to be stopped. I understand thats a slippery slope, but we need to find a way to get to the truth, and since anyone can post anything they want, facts and the truth very rarely meet
     
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    The pilgrims who were 'fleeing monarchy' occurred in the early 17th century. The 'founders' didn't achieve founding father status until the late 18th century, some 156 years later. Though they were well established here and so forth, they certainly weren't interested in an evangelical theocracy.
     
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