GOP senator warns Republicans will lose future elections if party continues to 'idolize' Trump

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  1. Starcastle

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    So let the democrats win? I understand not wanting to support the never Trumper types but looking at how radical dems have become even moderates are preferable.
     
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    I'm dead serious about Trump starting a MAGA radio show if not a whole network for sirius. He can do a show 3 days a week Mom Wed, Fri and his kids can do the other days. Don Jr would be popular on the air.
     
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    Did CPAC have a golden statue of you that people literally took at knee to?

    I think you under estimate the power of the cult leader.
     
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    "Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy (La.) warned Sunday the Republican Party will face continued election losses if the GOP maintains its loyalty to former President Donald Trump."

    So Cassidy fears the GOP Corporation won't do as well unless they all go back to a party of corporate neo-con RINOs. I guess he didn't ask the 75 million people who voted Republican in 2020 for their opinion on the matter. Not listening to what voters want is why the GOP was leaking voters for years before Donald Trump.
     
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    Yes. If he doesn't run, he can play the role of king maker. Trump likes opinion polls. If polling shows him as the preferred "front runner" in a couple years, he'll run. If polls a couple years out show someone like DeSantis or Noem as front runner, I expect Trump to support them as the nominee.

    The "iffy" bit would be if polls show Jeb Bush as the frontrunner (LOL...LOL...LOL), or Mitt Romney (Yikes!), then Trump would go against polling and run against them.

    As long as the people prefer an America First candidate, not a RINO, I think Trump will go along with the peoples' voices.
     
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    ~ Not to worry. H.R. 1, the “For the People Act” will ensure Democrats always win .
     
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    Except that's not what he's saying. It may be what you're hearing, but that's because you're putting everything through a Trump filter.

    In reality, those in the GOP who always saw Trump for what he actually is know a man like that can't be the basis for a political party. Especially since he has no loyalty to anybody but himself. He's not even really loyal to his supporters, as we saw when he disavowed them after the Capital riot despite spending 2 months stoking them up.

    Cassidy knows a political party based on a personality has no future. He knows that the GOP cannot be the party of conspiracy theories, fake narratives, and stupidity, because the folks who aren't going to vote for conspiracy theories, fake narratives, and stupidity will have nowhere else to go but the Democrats. Or vote third party or not at all. All of those options hurt the GOP.
     
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    The Dems just got done committing widespread election fraud across the former USA with impunity, and the GOPe types allowed them to get away with it (because, in the end, they are still getting theirs, as they are still a part of the "Uniparty ruling class" who operate under a different set of rules from which they force us "proles" to operate under.

    Both parties are corrupt beyond repair. If there is a MAGA candidate in a primary, then I will support them. If there is not a MAGA candidate in the general election, then I'm not going to bother with voting for anyone, plain and simple. The GOPe is dead to me. They are just Dems in GOP clothing and are just as much the enemy as the Dems are. I'm done with suffering from battered conservative syndrome, and will fully embrace collapsitarianism if need be.
     
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    That's what he was saying.

    Trump was the people's President, and the final President of the USA.

    Trump did no such thing. The Capitol riot was caused by Antifa, not Trump supporters.

    Cassidy just knows that HIS time is over, as many conservatives are no longer going to give their vote to his kind.

    Personally, I don't care about Dems vs Repubs anymore. It is now elites vs the commoners, and I expect civil war to break out in the next few years if the elites push too far.[/QUOTE]
     
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    To the extent that one should accept the results of a fraudulent election, yes I suppose so, but that's pretty much a nonexistent extent. As to standing behind the candidates of his own party, he's already proven that, at least for those who deserve his support.
     
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    do you have the link to where you stole that from?
     
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    I'm not so sure that Donald Trump got the memo that he is now history....
     
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    What election was fraudulent? Srsly, what is that junk?
     
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    And.... they did not believe him. Cuz pussygrabbing
     
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    Historically there is nothing that Americans hate so much as a lickspittle. We did not come here to live at what was then basically the surface of Mars because we were an easy people to get along with. George III was batshit nerts but allowing for that he was not really a bad sort overall and he had repealed all the bad taxes before the real fighting even started. No dice anyway. Americans just WON'T bend the knee, or kiss the butt, and doing that is warp and weft of Trump's whole idea of "governance" such as it may seem to be.
     
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    Actually it means Cassidy is not part of the Trump Borg.
     
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    I Remember When the
    Barry Goldwater defeat of '64
    WAS THE END OF THE GOP!

    '68 NIXON
    '72 NIXON
    '74 Ford :rolleyes:
    '81 Reagan
    and so it goes.


    The Democratic Party is best at
    snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!



    Moi :oldman: voted Obama '08

    Straight White Man
    The Democratic Party left me!




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    :flagcanada: too!
     
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    Who is out there on the horizon that will appeal to as many voters as he does? The Republican party is his for the taking and the establishment RINOs are scared spitless over it.
     
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    Well, if that's the case, then the party can gladly split into two parts. I am totally cool with that.

    Have at it!
     
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    Trump has no history of getting behind other Republicans for the good of the party at the expense of promoting his own brand.

    The GOP is in a tough position. The base want a candidate who has Trump's backing (or Trump himself!) but to have a good chance at winning the presidency, a candidate must make it clear that they don't take any instructions from Trump.
     
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    I am against 'idolizing' anyone but I don't think that's what they are doing. There are trump voters that seem to idolize trump. I think these Republicans are just hoping to expand their base to include the anti GOP, pro-trump crowd so that they can increase their voter base.

    I don't know for sure if the Trump supporting republicans will win but I am certain the old GOP who refuses to do anything to help the working class will die out very soon. Being the party of the elite and corporations isn't enough. The only reason they get any votes is because of their stance on traditional social structures and 'promises' to reduce the size of federal government. Unfortunately they don't reduce the power of federal government so what good are they? Instead of reducing the debt and spending they just give the money to other nations. Money we don't have and had to borrow! Can you imagine taking out a loan so that you could donate it?
     
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    Ähm, Gerald R. Ford was not elected in 1974. He became Vice-President in December 1973 after Spiro Agnew resigned in utter disgrace. Then, in August 1974, he became President when Richard Milhouse Nixon resigned in utter disgrace. He was never elected, neither as Vice-President nor as President. In 1976, he then LOST the General Election to Democrat Jimmy Carter.
     
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    That's probably something they need to do in order to have a chance of election. What a position to be in!

    The Dems can certainly no longer take working class support for granted, and a lot of workers are sympathetic to many GOP positions.

    It fascinates me that in Britain, the Conservative party now has more working class support than the Labour party. And that's all without doing anything much to help the workers!

    Are you counting military support there? Because it isn't much without that.

    It's not clear that reducing the debt is as big as a vote winner as spending is.
     
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    Not sure exactly what I posted there since my post was deleted for not providing a link. Haha. LOL

    This maybe:

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    Link:
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/prez_track_mar05

    I don't think the Republican split between America First supporters and RINO supporters is going to be "that big" of a deal in 2022 and 2024. Plenty of time for the GOP to sort out internal differences, because the bigger push will be against progressive/socialist/communist parties, and electing someone who does not have dementia.
     
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    Thanks for the link, I assumed it was Rasmussen but wanted to make sure before I ignored it.

    The Republican party right now split between Trumpers and Republicans. If there were an "America First" group they would not have built a golden idol of Trump for their convention. I doubt it will be solved by 2022 since Trump is doing all he can do to make the spit wider.

    As for 2024, Trump will keep any true contender from standing out from the crowd as he will keep the attention on himself for the next few year assuming he does not end up in jail.

    It will be a fun show to watch.
     
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