"GOP split as banks take on gun industry"

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It supplies a conundrum doesn’t it?
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    A business cannot abolish rights. What it can do is subvert customer's rights under the accommodation clause such as not serving people of a certain race.

    How can a business force people to vote for a political party? The $20 wage is government forcing a business not the other way.
     
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    "GOP split as banks take on gun industry"
    No reason for this. Conservatives should understand that banks can choose customers just like businesses can choose banks. It is supposed to be a free market. Who cares if a few banks decide to fire a few customers and send them to competing banks? This is not an issue for congress.
     
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    Yes, drive the gun industry further underground. That'll make it/us safer...
     
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  5. JakeStarkey

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    If any in the gun industry goes underground and breaks the law, someone will know and tell the cops.
     
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    You are obfuscating, trying to save your position.

    These businesses are trying to ban people from exercising their rights. Owning a firearm is not illegal, operating a gun store is not illegal, but these banks are demanding people stop all activity with firearms or else the bank will not do business with these people.

    Its no different than if a bank demanded all its customers stop speaking freely, or being religious.
     
  7. JakeStarkey

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    A bank has the right to make certain qualifications necessary for customers to do business with them.

    The bank's action does not override the 2d Amendment for Americans.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    No I am not obfuscating because I taking this in perspective and reality. Remember that if a business takes a social or a political stand it risks losing customers hence profits and the stock holders will not be happy campers.
     
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    What if you are talking about a monopoly? These banks are individually large and financially powerful, Citi and BoA are also politically powerful. Combined they approach monopoly status.

    And your argument is still not valid on its own. It is susceptible to the tyranny of the majority, which means your rights can be taken away by a business if the majority shareholders don't like that right.
     
  10. JakeStarkey

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    You argument has failed, Battle3. Gun owners are not a protected class in dealing with banks.
     
  11. not2serious

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    Is there a "violation of civil rights" going on here? To deny purposely to undermine the constitution? If you deny some gay couple a cake, and force the man who owns the shop into involuntary servitude, to deny a person money to buy a house, why not use the same laws and rulings to break the banks.

    And the 14th amendment says equal protection under the law. Then these protected class of people is in violations against this amendment.
     
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    Misplaced education here. Our founding fathers made the 2nd amendment, the NRA has not written a single amendment to the constitution, they follow what is written. So I am to assume you think the constitution is sick. No surprise here.
     

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