GOP Won’t Include Planned Parenthood Funding in Spending Bill

Federal funding for the abortion giant has been a key sticking point in past budget negotiations.

A key Republican involved in the health-care portion of this month’s omnibus spending bill said that the GOP is rejecting Democrats’ request for Planned Parenthood funding.

“They’re trying to grandfather in people that have gotten grants in the past,” said Representative Tom Cole of Oklahoma, who chairs the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related Agencies, to a gaggle of reporters on Thursday.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/planned-parenthood-funding-cut-included-republican-budget/

GOP won't automatically fund the abortion giant, Republicans will leave the decision up to the Trump administration, just as Congress has left it up to previous administrations.

Dems don’t want the Trump administration to be able to make the decision on these grants, but that’s the way it was in the last administration, and it needs to be the same in this administration.

If Dems want to shut down the government over handouts to PP, I guess they will.

 

Planned Parenthood does a ***** ton more for women's health than just offer pregnancy termination. If it wasn't for PP, millions of American women would have no healthcare to begin with. Yeah, I get it. You don't like a woman's ability to control her reproductive tract. Fine. But, please quit this stupid conservative narrative that all PP does is offer abortions on demand. In absence of universal healthcare, PP fills a void.

 

So the compromise seems simple.

Find a way to omit the contested element from the funding.

PP would just need to say to Congress/Trump/America that they wont use federal monies on abortion and will find ways to fund that slice of their business by other means - then of course actually do it.

Because this is just a slice of a larger fight; the fight over picking and choosing what tax payers "should" or "shouldn't" have to pay for.

I see that there's only two ways to handle it.

1) The way we're handling it now, whoever or whatever is in charge gets to decide based on their own subjective opinions hopefully by extension of the virtue of majority representation.

2) We move to a la carte taxation where hot button issues are opt-in/opt-out.

And btw I've never heard anybody, IRL or through media, talk about PP like its sole and singular function.

 

Wait, Medicaid stopped covering women's health? when did that happen!

 

penned this a while back on another forum and sometimes trot it out when the subject of taxpayers subsidizing Planned Parenthood's abortion mill comes up (corporatism [fascism], by the way). the dullards won't understand it, and liars will ignore or continue denying it.

 

If paying for abortions against your will isn't sick enough, consider that some of the over half billion dollars a year Planned Parenthood gets from taxpayers every year goes towards helping fund Democrat political campaigns. 98% of their campaign donations go to Democrats....yes, taxpayers help fund the elections of people who will keep Planned Parenthood's taxpayer funded gravy train rolling in, regardless of taxpayers' feelings about abortion.

sweetheart deal-wise for Democrats, it's identical to government labor unions...

 

the reason pro-abortion ghouls in DC illegally backdoor Planned Parenthood federal money is because they know taxpayers will likely never agree to allow Medicaid to cover elective abortions.

 

What about this ACA thing everyone talks about. I would be more open to giving PP some money if they did not spend so much money on politics. If you have money to donation to other groups instead of spending money on your main function, then you do not need the government's help.

 

That's not true. I have no issue with abortion at all. I just don't want it happening on my dime.

 

Someone posted a thread about how PP was planning on spending millions on elections. If they have money for that then they clearly don't need it to stay operating.

 

The problem is not all the good PP does. It's not even that they provide abortion services because these are, after all, legal services whether a person agrees with the morality of them or not. The problem is that PP engages in political action and donates money to pro-abortion candidates. Hear me out ....

The NRA also does a lot of good - not just political action. They sponsor law enforcement training, certify instructors, give gun safety courses, hold rifle and pistol matches, and they are for wildlife and habitat conservation. They, too, engage in political action. Since the political action comes from separate donated funds, would you approve of the government giving the NRA grants for all the good they do? Would you want your tax dollars used to support the NRA against your will?

In both cases - the NRA and PP - the argument can be made that these grants are not used for political action. But Webrockk is right. "The Hyde Amendment is John's parents."

The principle I'm alluding to here is that the government should not be granting money to organizations that engage in political activity. I am against this on principle.

 

Not surprising that the GOP is returning to the failed "Abstinence-only" education push.

The right-wing really loves them some abortion, don't they?

 

This above says it all. Organizations that engage in and support heavily left or right political agendas should not be getting everyone's tax dollars. I honestly can't think of a conservative one but maybe there is.

PP is a blatant leftist organization and publicly supports the left. PP does much good for alot of women. The way forward for PP is to just do its mandate. Cease any and all public support for leftist candidates. Like journalists are supposed too. In 2016 the publicly endorsed Hillary. They have given millions of dollars to leftist candidates.

Don't expect that to happen because like most Nonprofits it's really for the profit of its bloated administration. Non Profits like PP, NPR, Red Cross hide behind their warm fuzzy mandates to pork barrel monies for lifer administrators.

PP is very hard to criticize because if you criticize their management policies well you must hate women. So they get away with it because of the harsh rhetoric the left can use too defend bad management

 

The minute that Obama left office. Prior to that, it was the minute that Bill Clinton left and Bush was sworn in.

Basically, every victim group gets left behind and on their own the minute a Democrat president leaves.

 

I can't follow that logic, (huh?) but you provoked a thought.

What if there was an organization that provided all of the health services that PP provides except abortion services. And they donated money to conservative candidates and organizations that pushed for "abstinence only" education.

Would you want your tax money granted to them by the government?

 

Spare me the propaganda line.

Those other services are referred out and can be done at most clinics.

The Tax Payer should not be funding this.

 

it is illegal for federal money to fund abortions.

no Federal dollars fund abortions. It only funds other medical services at PP.

so why is this still an issue?



In U.S. politics, the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of federal funds to pay for abortionexcept to save the life of the woman, or if the pregnancy arises from incest or rape

 

hehehe

 

Federal funding to PP doesn't and cannot fund abortions.

so this is just a fake issue by the Republicans.

 

I am glad they don't include it although I doubt it will matter much.

 

The question is if they move funds around. So that the federal funding goes for non-abortion activities and they shift the funding for that to cover abortions.

 

There will be no budget without funding for non-abortion activities at PP.

we have been down this road a zillion times and the Republicans always lose.

 

Save the Fetus/Screw the Child...the same old right wing bull-****.

 

Yeah, Russell is right on this one. Heck, I've seen funds shifted about in education to places that shouldn't have been funded at all, I've no doubt it's happening at PP.

 

Planned Parenthood should have no problem finding private donors then, if they are so valuable. They don't need our tax dollars to support their baby killing activities...