Got the Pfizer vaccine on Wednseday

I would be more concerned by the crawling pumpkin, being inland, they take you out at knees.

My biggest concern was the over land power line 1 mile away, how the cosmic and magnetic field would influence it, with that power line, would interfere with the magnetic values of my bioNtech/Pfizer vaccine, cause a problem.
First I thought to get a root goer, but than, since I do a lot of metal work including black smiting, I went to the roots.
Got me welding magnets out and go my old very trusted military compass, set it on the magnets, stood 24.333cm from it and it did not move.
I hade to pee because of the beer and had to stand there for 5.666 minutes.
The compass never moved and I could take a piss.

Thanks Wotan for keeping me strong, so I did not piss my pants.

 

You've been added to the killed after taking the vaccine list.

 

All my employees have at least 1 vaccination with bioNtech.
I am rather pleased.

 

I just got the Astra Zeneca this morning - only one offered where I am at present.

 

Getting Oxford vaccine tomorrow and thought I'll monitor myself regularly over next few days and note side effects and other observations. My stats are age 56, BMI 22, predominantly vegan diet, current BP 121/78 (usually higher than this, normally around 135/85), pulse 68. Currently have hay fever and sleeping around 6 hours per day.

 

What you need to watch for over the next 4 to 20 days are the symptoms of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis: persistent headache, dizziness, visual trouble (e.g. blurry vision), seizures. If present seek help immediately; early treatment is life-saving (untreated fatality rate is 40%). If you are male and over 55, very very unlikely that it will happen to you, but this and anaphylaxis are pretty much the only two things that could kill you, so, it's worth watching for. @Pants being female your risk is a bit bigger especially if you are between the ages of 20 and 62.

This said, you don't need to be afraid. It has been happening in only about 1 case out of 90,000 people. Still, that's the one dangerous reaction. Or one of the two, anaphylaxis being the other one (much easier to treat).

The rate of anaphylaxis for the AstraZeneca is 1:83,000. For the Pfizer it's about 1:80,000 and for Moderna 1:300,000.

Allergy to the AstraZeneca vaccine is generally allergy to a component called polysorbate 80, a.k.a. Tween 80.

 

Thanks @CenterField. I was impressed that they kept us all there for almost 1/2 hour after vaccination because apparently anaphylaxis occurs within minutes of the vaccination. A doctor also sat with each person to go over all the potential symptoms and when to recognize if they become serious and when to go to a clinic/hospital. But as I consider information to be important in this situation, I appreciate your taking the time to provide it! So far, so good.

 

Thanks. Yes, while possible up to 2 hours, anaphylaxis usually occurs within 15 to 30 minutes.

 

Personal experiment continues:
One hour before vaccine. Just come back from shopping. BP 130/90, pulse 71. Hay fever quite bad last night resulting in about 5.5 hours sleep. Otherwise feel fine. No unusual aches or pain. @CenterField don't remember ever having a headache before so I'll look out for that after the vaccine even though I may not recognise the symptoms . Thank you for your advice

If I haven't posted again in a few hours time then something probably happened - most likely had an accident on bicycle on way to clinic

 

Oh, by the way, "normally around 135/85" is not ideal. While it's still borderline and whether or not you need treatment is controversial, some would think that you should probably be on a low dose of hypertension medication if a low salt diet and other measures below don't control it, in case you have any other co-morbidity. What does your doctor say of it?

Reduce salt - Consume no more than 2 grams of sodium a day

Follow the DASH diet - Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, choose low-fat dairy products, and reduce total fat consumption

Lose weight - (you don't need it) - Reach and maintain a normal body mass index (BMI) - (You're already there)

Exercise regularly - Get at least 30 minutes of moderate aerobic exercise on all or most days of the week

Limit alcohol - Have no more than two drinks per day if you're male, or one drink per day if you're female

Quit smoking - There is no safe amount of cigarette smoking; if you smoke, try to quit

 

No idea about the AZ vax, but I have heard a few men complain that they had trouble staying awake for the first couple weeks after the moderna one.

 

If we had vaccines in my area I would get it, but they don't.

 

The dose of Pfizer has had not contraindications for me a full day after.

 

Sorry, but given the context, I can't resist; "WE reserved Englishmen..."
Bonne journee a tous et toutes.

 

vaccine time +11 hours
BP 138/84, pulse 76. Both categories higher than normal for me but not necessarily an effect of the vaccine, more likely in my opinion is lack of sleep. Also have just eaten too much which might be a factor. Otherwise no other side effects and no bruising.

The procedure at the pharmacy did not appear to follow guidelines - went into pharmacist office, had brief questions asked about any allergies and current medication, then had injection and then straight out. Not asked to wait 15 minutes. In and out in less than 3 minutes

 

I have spoken before to my doctor about my BP but unfortunately whenever a doctor measures it, the reading is always high ( white coat syndrome?). I do have my own machine which appears, if it's working properly, to give my BP in the borderline range which I've also discussed with the doctor. I've always hinted to my doctor that I don't really want any medication as I do not want it to effect my energy levels - I regularly cycle 60-100 mile routes at speed with no problem. So it's a balance between the health benefits of trouble free exercise against a lower BP possibly effecting my energy levels reducing those health benefits

 

OK, bear with me here. Let's think of this, carefully.

To work around the white coat syndrome what we do is a diary. Measure the BP at home in stable and similar daily conditions (when you wake up, before lunch, before supper, at bedtime) after 5 minutes resting, seated position, cuff at the level of your heart. Write it down. Do it for say a week. You'll have a pretty good average. Because, see, sometimes it's not white coat syndrome, if say, you always go see your doctor early in the morning or late afternoon after work, and with the diary you find out that while your BP is only borderline at other times of the day, it *is* indeed higher for whatever combination of factors, at that time.

Another factor to consider is the size of the cuff (the bigger the person, the bigger the cuff needs to be) and the accuracy of the home BP monitor; also, positioning and tightness of the cuff is important and lay people often don't do it right. You should take your equipment to the doctor's office and compare the reading you are getting, with the reading using the doctor's professional equipment. Maybe your BP is actually higher like you see at the doctor's office but your home equipment (or the way you're doing it) is underestimating it.

Another thing is stress. You know, you go through a high traffic area, you're speeding and stressed out, trying to get to your doctor's office on time, and you park and you're late and running, your BP will be higher (thus the 5' minute rule; often when it's like this we measure it at the beginning of the visit but also repeat it at the end when the patient settles down). Pain makes it higher. Worries about a diagnostic test the doctor is doing makes it higher. And so on and so forth.

Also, say, you always go see your doctor after your lunch break after eating something very salty... that could influence it too. Or you're half dehydrated or full of fluids... also changes things. This is why doing it 4 times a day in stable conditions is often what is needed to sort it out.

Machine reading can be inaccurate, versus your doctor actually listening to your arteries with a stethoscope while he/she manually pumps the cuff. Often when in doubt we do the machine reading but then confirm by listening as we're better at measuring it than a machine (hopefully, when we're well trained, haha).

Another consideration is the unlikely but real possibility of some sort of arterial stenosis that could give a different reading on the left arm versus the right arm; maybe your doctor always measures it on one side, and you always measure it at home on the other one? That one is simple to sort out... just measure at home on both sides and compare. If you get the exact same or very similar reading then it's not an issue. But if you get one side persistently lower than the other, that's one reason for the discrepancy if the sides at home and at the office are different. You know, sometimes the way the office is set up, where you sit to have it measured, the doctor or nurse always approach you from one given side, while when you measure it at home you are in the habit of sitting on a table a certain way that makes you always do it on the other side. Just saying.

Given that high BP is nicknamed the silent killer, you should really sort it out. High BP increases your risk of a heart attack, a stroke, dementia, etc., no fun. Given that you are in tune with your general health as evidenced by a normal BMI and a good exercise routine, not sorting this out goes against your health-conscious ways.

There aren't many situations where it *is* more important to sort it all out, other than borderline readings... because if the high ones are the wrong ones, you're fine... but if the low ones are the wrong ones, then you're not. I mean, if it's always high, we know you need treatment and we prescribe it and retake the BP several days later once the medication kicks in, and hopefully it's all fine. If it's always low, we know you don't need treatment... but it's precisely when it's borderline and it varies from the office to the home and vice-versa, that we do need the more involved attempt to sort it out. And a diary is important anyway, because we want to know that treatment is keeping the BP in normal range throughout the day, not just when you are at the doctor's office. So you wouldn't be wasting the effort anyway.

About BP medication affecting your energy level, not necessarily. There are several kinds, with several different sets of side effects, and side effects are always theoretical. Statistically speaking most people do not experience side effects to a given medication. For most medications it's a minority of people who do. I'm sure that if it is confirmed that you have anything worse than borderline hypertension, your doctor will be able to work with you to find a medication that lowers it and doesn't affect your energy level.

And no, lower BP (lowered to the normal range) is not likely in itself to lower your energy level. If anything, you'll feel better. There is no such thing as an advantage in having abnormally high BP (except in some very particular situations I won't even get into, today, as they are not likely to apply to you).

Like I say to others here who ask for my advice or when I offer unsolicited advice (like I'm doing here), I do not intend to practice Medicine over the Internet. I'm just trying to be friendly and helpful, but ultimately anything you do is between you and your doctor. It is only ethical to dispense real medical advice to someone you've personally examined which obviously is not the case here. But what I'm telling you here is very likely to match the sound advice I'm sure your doctor is issuing to you as well.

 

I hate to correct you.
Its not microchips, its Nano-Chips.
Please, be correct.
I am still waiting for the USB port in my ars to replace the hemorides.

Do you have any info when that will happen, you are the science guy and should know.

 

Oops, you're right, nano-chips. I hate to correct you too, but it's not USB, it's USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps).

Easy, didn't you listen to our very scientific-minded former president? You need to get an UV light up you behind. Once you do that, we can install the USB 3.1 port.

 

At close to 48 hours, nothing that can be associated with the shot. All's well.

 

Thank you for your advice and time and you have persuaded me to see the doctor to discuss the different treatments. I'll wait a couple of weeks just so that the vaccine is not blamed for the higher BP. You mentioned arterial stenosis which I hadn't heard of before. About ten years ago I mentioned to the doctor that my right arm BP was always about 10 points higher than the left when measured at home and he just brushed it off but given the prognosis of arterial stenosis it's very unlikely in my case so perhaps the doctor saw no reason to be concerned.

Thank you again for all this advice

 

I need a software upgrade than

 

Just by way of update - because I know you are interested in the different vaccines and their effects. I and everyone I know (11 other people) who took the Astra Zeneca, all suffered from chills that first night and extreme muscle soreness in the shoulders and neck. But all that's gone now for all of us.

 

Yep, these vaccines are reactogenic, and given that the AstraZeneca one uses a live virus, chills are not uncommon. But like you've noticed, most side effects go away in 24 to 48 hrs.