Gov. Little signs ‘Fetal Heartbeat Bill’ into law, protecting the lives of the preborn

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Robert, Apr 27, 2021.

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Do you approve the law signed by Governor Little of Idaho?

Poll closed Apr 27, 2022.
  1. YES

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  3. My spin on this is?

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Women included?

    The you must support their liberty to have abortions.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words you don't mind having it as it is where humans, male and female, get exterminated on orders of their mother.

    I do not agree.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is research showing abortions have cut crime back dramatically. Perhaps that is why you support them.

    https://freakonomics.com/podcast/abortion/

    Levitt eventually wrote a paper called “Understanding Why Crime Fell in the 1990s: Four Factors That Explain the Decline and Six That Do Not.” The six factors that, according to his analysis, did not contribute to the crime drop: a strengthening economy; the aging of the population; innovative policing strategies; gun-control laws; right-to-carry laws; and the increased use of capital punishment. While each of these, in theory, might seem to have some explanatory power, Levitt found they didn’t. The relationship between violent crime and the greater economy, for instance, is very weak. Capital punishment, he found, at least as currently practiced in the U.S., simply didn’t act as a deterrent against future crimes.

    Then there were the factors he found did contribute: the increase in the number of police; an increase in the number of criminals imprisoned; and the decline of the crack-cocaine trade, which had been unusually violent. But these three factors could explain only a portion of the massive drop in crime — perhaps only half. It was as if there were some mysterious force that all the politicians and criminologists and journalists weren’t thinking about at all.

    LEVITT: I had the idea that maybe legalized abortion in the 1970s might possibly have affected crime in the 1990s.

    One day, paging through the Statistical Abstract of the United States, which is the kind of thing that economists like Levitt do for fun, he saw a number that shocked him:

    LEVITT: At the peak of U.S. abortion, there were 1.5 million abortions every year.

    That was compared to roughly 4 million live births. The sheer magnitude of abortions surprised Levitt. And he wondered what sort of secondary effects it might have. He wondered, for instance, if it might somehow be connected to the huge drop in crime.

    LEVITT: And I had actually gotten obsessed with the idea and had spent maybe three weeks working around the clock. And I had decided that the idea wasn’t a very good one, that it didn’t make sense. And I had a huge file of papers that I had put away and had moved on to another project.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Women included?

    The you must support their liberty to have abortions.


    So you do NOT agree that all people have liberty...which is the opposite of what you first said..
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Women included?

    The you must support their liberty to have abortions.



    I'm going to bet that what you posted has NOTHING to do with the post of mine you quoted :) ..and I'll win:)
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am going to bet I have been discussing Abortions.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will you list the crimes that you believe we have the right to commit?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Women included?

    The you must support their liberty to have abortions.





    I'm going to bet that what you posted has NOTHING to do with the post of mine you quoted :) ..and I'll win:)

    This discussion was about liberty and how you claimed everyone has it....except women.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jails are full of people whose liberty I do not support.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Women included?

    The you must support their liberty to have abortions.




    So you do NOT agree that all people have liberty...which is the opposite of what you first said..



    I never said we were at liberty to commit crimes….is your imagination running amok again?

    You said EVERONE has a right to liberty......you haven't mentioned " the liberty to commit crimes" until now...because you must've realized you backed yourself into a corner..:)
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you do not want to keep discussing Abortions? I said I support liberty. But not for criminals.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think as you wish and enjoy liberty. But please do not speak favorably of stopping the liberty of the unborn humans.
     
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    Who has the liberty to take your life or my life?
     
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    You have responded to each of my posts yet you were unaware of the questions contained in them?
    Rather, I think, you got nothing.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not see a path to pleasing you.
     
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    LOL, you just can't say you support liberty for women....that must be so hard....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Women included?
    IF YES THEN
    …. you must support their liberty to have abortions.


    No one. Why would you need to ask such a silly question?
     
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    UNBORN humans have no liberty and no rights....they are not BORN...
     
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    Or women?
     
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    The Silence of the Anti-Choicers When Asked those Inconvenient Questions :)
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not anti choice, it is anti death of humans.
     
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    Well, they can't stop humans from dying so they're peeing into the wind....

    No, they ARE anti-Choicers, they want to take away women's choice.


    You said:
    So you do not want to keep discussing Abortions? I said I support liberty. But not for criminals."""


    I asked :

    Or women?
     
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    So what? Nothing I stated excludes women.

    The unborn are humans. Killing humans is wrong.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Well, they can't stop humans from dying so they're peeing into the wind....

    No, they ARE anti-Choicers, they want to take away women's choice.


    You said:
    So you do not want to keep discussing Abortions? I said I support liberty. But not for criminals."""


    I asked :

    Or women?


    So you agree that women have the same liberty that everyone else has.

    Good, that means you agree they have the liberty to have abortions...that IS LIBERTY!


    NOT if they are harming another or using another's body to sustain their life.







    And as to the rest of my posts you quoted :


    they ARE anti-Choicers, they want to take away women's choice.
     
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    ANYONE who we are attacking or harming..


    ...in some states our lives are taken if we commit murder....
     

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