Graecopithecus freybergi: Oldest Hominin Lived in Europe, not Africa

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  1. Brewskier

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    http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/graecopithecus-freybergi-hominin-04888.html

    Very interesting discovery. This would basically rewrite the entire narrative on the "Out of Africa" concept that has been the norm for a long time now.

    Some of the other sources I came across on this story, from CBS and other mainstream media sources, were sure to throw in their bias right out of the gate, adding words like "a new controversial study" in the first sentence of the first paragraph. They supported this skepticism by interviewing 1 or 2 entrenched leftist professors at mediocre Universities, who have an ideological aversion towards the concept that the original human might not have been a black African.

    It just goes to show how "settled science" issues are very rarely settled.
     
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    Oldest found to date, you mean.
     
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    You realize that the new fossil could have been as black as any African and that the theory doesn't touch on phenotype, but species and age?
     
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    freybergi?

    sounds like a common Jewish name.

    and according to you, that means the research must be bunk.

    “Our discovery outlines a new scenario for the beginning of human history,” added co-author Professor David Begun, from the University of Toronto.

    uh oh, Jewish researcher.

    according to you that means its all bunk
     
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    You do realize, in all of your excitement, that this fossil may very well have been a "dead-end" and not related to modern humans at all, right?

    The preponderance of evidence still suggests that homo sapiens originated in Africa.

    This find opens up interesting possibilities particularly in regards to the ape-human split. However, one jawbone and a tooth simply don't supersede the wealth of other fossils scattered in much larger numbers which provide a more complete (though still woefully inadequate) record.

    As for the rest of your screed against "mainstream media sources." I guess "science" to you only consists of things that you believe.
     
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    he disregarded years of research showing that blue eyes is due to a random mutation, simply cause one of the scientists involved may be a Jew.
     
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    Sure, there may be much older fossils found elsewhere. That's the problem with the "definitive" Out of Africa study. They called it settled science for a long time.
     
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    Less likely to be a "black as any African" due to the latitudinal difference between this site and the other "origin" sites.
     
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    and yes Asians who live at the same latitudes as England, Scotland, Germany, all have dark hair and dark eyes
     
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    Do you even know why they called it "freybergi"?
     
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    common Jewish last name.

    must mean its bunk, according to you
     
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    These particular scientists don't seem overly concerned with that possibility.

    Ah, yes, "settled science" so we can't accept new information that might force us to reform our preconceptions. How scientific.

    Why wouldn't it supersede that information if they discover that it is, indeed, an older specimen that shows an even earlier human ancestor? All that would show is that they have less evidence of an older species than they do of a newer species. That wouldn't be uncommon at all in Archaeology.

    Says the guy trying to dismiss this find because the "Out of Africa" theory is a sacrosanct belief in the left-wing universe.
     
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    But do you know why they called it that?
     
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    I already responded to this talking point in the other thread. There are, indeed, light eyed, blond Asians.
     
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    What is wrong with you. Do you really think scientists are making this about racism?

    Any study that bucks the popular paradigm is considered to be controversial. Don't be so dense.
     
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    Just another day at PF. Ronstar makes an unsubstantiated, incorrect argument, Brewskier refutes him.

     
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    You all really need to get a grasp on reality.
     
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    Why? The fossil could merely belong to an intrepid traveler and not a multi-generational resident of the area. Pretty sure there was a pair of feet that went with the jaw bone. Interesting find - but unless it is backed up with more evidence, at this time it
    can only be called a one off, with interesting possibilities, but no corroboration to support any other theory - especially one that claims this changes the cradle of human origin.
     
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    No, I don't think scientists are making this about racism.
     
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    You didn't read your own article? The researches are claiming that it is the oldest hominin fossil yet found dating at about 7.2 MILLION years. However, there is considerable evidence that supports homo sapiens originating in Africa from 100,00-200,000 years ago. That's a difference of about 7,000,000 years. Do you know how many hominin and homonid species have likely gone extinct? No? Neither do scientists. It could be dozens, hundreds, or even thousands.

    No science is ever completely settled. A "scientific fact" is a fact based on the best available evidence. The preponderance of evidence still point to Africa no matter how badly the racists want to dismiss the literally thousands of homonid fossils found elsewhere.
     
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    It was a savannah environment at the time. You realize climates were a bit different so many million years ago right?
    You're trying to make it a race thing. It's not. It's a particular type of advanced monkey we may or may not be actually related to. You're as bad as the magic melanin pukes.
     
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    Yes, that is definitely possible. Hopefully the politically correct (((forces))) don't hinder this potentially worthwhile discovery.
     
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    so you will disregard any research you consider to be Jew-influenced or PC-influenced?

    sounds like a great excuse to only believe information that conforms to your political agenda.
     
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    Sure, which has nothing to do with the point of the article, or my OP. If the ape/human split happened outside of Africa, then they have to reevaluate their entire premise for the "Out of Africa" theory.

    At this point in time, that is true. That may not be the case in a few decades when more research is done because of this discovery.
     
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    Is this where you pretend to know something about Biology? Or are you just virtue signaling to your progressive friends?
     

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