Graham backs Trump, vows no money for WHO in next funding bill

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    If they can't be neutral then our $122 million would be better spent in preparation for the next Chinese Pandemic than on a another corrupt world organization. They appear to have colluded with China to keep infected people traveling to the United States. China is not our friend, they just want our money for manufacturing crap. Myself I think we need to remove some manufacturing from China and move it to a far more United States friendly country. Italy got what it deserved. In order to preserve their "made in Italy" moniker on some of their goods, thousands of Chinese citizens traveled to Italy to work as indentured servants for peanut wages so the Italian companies could make a big profit. You reap what you sow!
     
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    This whole thing about the WHO is a farce. This is Trump trying to deflect criticism and blame and give the impression he's doing something productive when he's not.

    At the very least, he can leave the childish nonsense until a time when things have improved here.

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    The WHO was still lying about the virus in mid-January.

    The fact that they didn't bother to research the virus on their own, nor were they able to use common sense to come up with a death toll, tells me that either they're wholly incompetent or they flat out lied for the Chinese government. Add to the fact that had they listened to Taiwan, this global pandemic could have been prevented.

    Instead they took the CCP line and ran with it, probably because some of their most influential members are owned by China.

    Does ANYBODY really believe their new cases stopped overnight?

    The WHO sure does.

    If you believe that, you also probably believe their body bag count is less than 10,000. It's probably closer to 50,000.
     
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    Graham is a Trump flunky, what else is he going to do.
     
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  5. struth

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    There will be a major investigation into why the WHO lied and screwed up so totally on this.
     
  6. Creasy Tvedt

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    Siding with the propaganda wing of the ChiComm government to pwn the Orange Man.

    Speaking of childish nonsense, that was a sweet little nursery rhyme you did there.
     
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    Trump will try to scapegoat his blame for his missteps and failures on anyone even the CDC and W.H.O.
     
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    Graham! Backing trump! Now this is unheard of breaking news!
    :rolleyes:
     
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    It is the responsibility of the WHO and CDC to be on top of a pandemic. They clearly dropped the ball on this one.
     
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    And his supporters will weave conspiracy theories around the bullshit to they wnd convince thmseelves he was right all the way along
     
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    Specifics please
     
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    No they did not drop the ball on this one, not even close. Trump was particularly angry at the W.H.O. for issuing a statement saying it did not support his decision on Jan. 31 to limit some travel from China because of the virus. At the time, the group said that “restricting the movement of people and goods during public health emergencies is ineffective in most situations and may divert resources from other interventions.”

    “Don’t close your borders to China, don’t do this,” Trump said, he was paraphrasing the statement and accusing the organization of “not seeing” the outbreak when it was first detected in Wuhan, China. “They didn’t see it. How do you not see it? They didn’t see it. They didn’t report it. If they did see it, they must have seen it, but they didn’t report it.”

    In fact, the W.H.O. repeatedly issued warnings about the emergence of the virus in China and its spread across the world. Trump relishes having a new target to blame for the pandemic that has plunged the world into deep economic distress and forced people to abandon their jobs, close schools and stay in their homes to curb the virus’s spread. Trump often issues threats that he later does not follow through on. But if Trump does withdraw all of its funding to the W.H.O., which accounts for about 10 percent of the their budget, it could significantly affect its mission.

    Were you aware that the largest bloc of member states at the United Nations delivered a veiled but pointed criticism of the United States over the international response to the coronavirus pandemic? They denounced the use of Trump's economic sanctions during the crisis and rejecting “stigmatization or discrimination” in the battle to defeat this deadly pandemic. Other member states of the UN have been pressuring Trump to rescind economic sanctions against Iran, which is among the countries hardest hit by the virus. But he won't because Trump is an evil, vindictive human being who could care less about human lives or suffering.
     
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    Specifics? We are talking about the World HEALTH Organization and the Centers for DISEASE CONTROL......it is in their name!
     
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    They are responsible, as they are at the pinnacle, but Trump is NOT, it is all the fault of the folks at the regional and local level. You guys are amazing in your contortionism.
     
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    Besides shutting down travel from the Chinese what did he do that the WHO told him not to do?
     
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    The WHO needs to fire Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. He's in way over his head. His close relations with Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation as well as relationships with the Bill Gates Foundation got him elevated to the level where his incompetence is showing. This is a guy who tried to explain away three outbreaks of cholera in his own country as nothing more than "acute watery diarrhea". Now, due to political relationships (again) he has helped China cover up details of the virus which should have been shared with the world earlier.

    Until he's replaced with a competent medical expert, no more money for the WHO. The last thing the world needs is a smarmy politician running world health oversight.
     
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    There's no evidence of collusion between WHO and China.

    It's a pure invention of the orange clown and you swallow it without asking any questions.

    You're the perfect followers.

    You're clinging to anything that might excuse his flawed crisis management.

    When all this is over, people who are less partisan and who inform themselves a little will see that many other countries such as Germany, Canada, Portugal, Austria, New Zealand, Norway, South Korea and many more have been more successful in dealing with the virus than the U.S.

    They will find that responsible governments, who took the virus seriously from the start, saved their people from it.

    And that China had little to do with it.
     
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    Schiff wants to investigate Trump's response to the chinavirus but you want to give wHO a pass. Talk about politicizing an issue.
     
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    Who suggested there was collusion between the two? China lied...the WHO simply believed their lies without doing any of their own work and spread it.

    That's not some sort of conspiracy between the two. Just laziness on the WHO part
     
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    When did Taiwan or Canadian experts become part of your alleged "Orange Clown invention"?

    You know when Washington Post is criticizing the WHO's relationship with China, it isn't just an "Orange Clown" thing. Perhaps not criticizing the WHO is just an American Democrat thing?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...1c8e8a-7a0e-11ea-a311-adb1344719a9_story.html

    "Taiwanese officials last month accused the WHO of ignoring warnings submitted by the island as early as December about a potential coronavirus outbreak — information that was never publicized to the WHO’s member nations because the island is locked out of the organization under a policy that does not recognize Taiwanese statehood."

    "Beyond the Trump administration, some international experts, including current WHO advisers, have publicly questioned whether the agency hewed too closely to the Chinese government’s positions, particularly as the outbreak came into view during the crucial month of January."

    "In the middle of that month, the WHO reiterated the Chinese position that there was a low possibility of human-to-human transmission and discouraged countries from banning visitors from China — positions it later overturned. The organization also echoed the Chinese statement that the outbreak was “preventable and controllable.”"

    "Weeks later, the WHO came under further criticism when Bruce Aylward, a Canadian epidemiologist who led a WHO team to inspect China in February,
    declined to answer a Hong Kong reporter’s question about how Taiwan performed during the pandemic — and at one point hung up the video interview."
     
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    The DNC has been bought and paid for by the Chinese for years.
     
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    Graham backing the people of the United States and the world.
     
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    Per capita, those countries haven't fared much better than America, and there are plenty of countries that are doing much worse than America. Why are you ignoring those countries? Because they don't fit your Trump-hating partisan narrative perhaps?

    Could you explain to me what "per capita" means?

    I have a theory.
    Carrying water for the ChiComms to pwn the Orange Man.

    I see where your loyalty lies. You're a good, little comrade.
     
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