Grand Jury Charges 1 in Breonna Taylor Case

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  1. ricmortis

    ricmortis Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, the people inside heard the knock since the man had time to grab his gun and aim ready to fire at the police entering the home.
     
  2. hawgsalot

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    You may not be guilty of murder but you sure as hell caused the police to shoot back and kill your GF.
     
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  3. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Some new reports that should end the stall-out in this thread's debate; time for some posters to either concede some points (sure, that's gonna happen) or else change their arguments:

    1) The sole witness to the police announcing themselves had CHANGED HIS STORY. When originally interviewed, in March, he said, "No, nobody identify themself." He changed that story in May.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3559784001

    2) Ex-Officer Hankison, who the Kentucky AG said had been ruled out as the shooter responsible for his fellow-officer's gunshot wound because it had been determined to have been a 9mm round. It has now come out that Hankison, besides his .40-caliber pistol, had also been issued a 9mm weapon.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3554995001

    3) One of the GRAND JURORS has filed a motion to have the Grand Jury testimony released because that juror feels that the AG has been using grand jurors, "as a shield to deflect accountability & responsibility," for his charging drcisions. The juror's lawyer says the juror disputed the AG's statement that the jurors agreed that the uncharged officers, Mattingly & Cosgrove, were justified in their actions.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1241394
     
  4. Injeun

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    I fully agree.
     
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  5. Injeun

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    It's a matter of record that the man and woman in the apartment knew someone was knocking aggressively on their door with six or seven series of knocks. The Police also announced themselves, which was heard by the tenant of the upstairs apartment. But the two did not answer for whatever reason. And it alarmed the man who armed himself with his registered weapon. Because he and his girlfriend both had clean records, upstanding careers, and he was licensed to carry, I'm convinced that he would not have fired on the Police had he known that they were Police. The whole matter hinges on the woman's former relationship and recent contacts with her former drug dealing boyfriend. Because that's what drew the Police to her door. And when her current boyfriend fired on them, tragedy ensued.
     
  6. hawgsalot

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    So your saying fbi ballistics of the gun used that killed Breana is wrong? The KY AG is releasing the grand jury tapes so I guess we'll see.
     
  7. struth

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    1 no
    2 no

    But, i would expect a full investigation as a tax payer to find out the those options....

    we got one ine KY.....with the police

    why won't you accept the results?
     
  8. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm just passing along links to credible news reports, to take away some of our latitude for speculation since, if we all base our beliefs solely on personal hunches, it's not especially conducive to us agreeing upon anything. Read the articles. The one on ballistics, even though it's on the USA Today site, is from the Louisville Courier-Journal. Had you read it, you wouldn't have to ask me what I'm, "saying."

    I thought I'd summed it up pretty clearly, but I'll give it 1 more swing: the reason the AG had previously ruled out any of the officers as the shooter is that the officers carry .40-caliber guns, & the bullet hole was from a 9mm, which is the size ammunition used by the boyfriend's gun. The new information is that the fired ex-officer charged w/ (3 counts of 1st degree) reckless endangerment, it turns out, had also been issued a 9mm weapon. No determination has yet been made as to from which of their guns had come the bullet which struck officer Mattingly. So you can still speculate, for now. But you can't say that the boyfriend's was the only 9mm at the scene & so it had to be him who fired the shot, at least one can't say that & have any idea of what he's talking about.

    I had noted in an earlier post that it seemed quite a good, or lucky, shot to hit a potential assailant's femoral artery, under those conditions, with only 1 bullet fired. And, maybe he did. But it's worth noting that police fired quite a few rounds, I think something like 40-- but no need to quote me: it's in the article.
     
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    His life will never be the same:
     
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    Good, let him retire, get a second career, he doesn't need this grief any more.
     
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    They were issued a 9mm but all were carrying .40s that night, people are desperately trying to make something out of this but it means nothing. This was pretty clearly contagious gunfire, the third officer will say that he thought his oppos shooting was continued firing from the suspects and that he fired on the muzzle flashes and be exonerated.
     
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    Agreed. But if he heard that, and not “POLICE!!!”, then someone is lying.
     
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    In an act to save her, it did ultimately kill her.
     
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    What results ?
     
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    From the Grand Jury investigation.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You’ve been told multiple times that the “Grand Jury” is a one sided affair. It’s literally only one side of the story.

    Try again
     
  17. struth

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    Well its' the said of the prosecutors, you are right the defendants didn't get to tell their side....and the one person charged will have a chance to do that at trial.
     
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  18. hawgsalot

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    No he caused it period. He doesn't shoot a cop they search her apartment don't find him or drugs and they know not to hang out with that dude anymore and go on their merry way. By shooting the cop, he caused a reaction that is lawful and what even a lefty cop would do, shoot back.
     
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    C'mon hawgs. Someone breaks into your house unannounced, you shoot them. I would do the very same thing.

    Again, we know from the GJ that he called the police . Why would he call the police if they announced ?
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Without making sure who they were? Remember the police officer who accidentally enter the wrong apartment and thought that the person inside had broken in and she shot and was criticized for not making sure who it was first?
     
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    Oh my, no I would never open fire at a police officer executing a lawful warrant....are you insane? that's like billy the kid stuff..this isn't the wild wild west my man.

    maybe to get help for his GF who's death he caused by his actions, and cover his trail for attempting to murder police officers.
     
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    So you think they should introduce themselves to each other before they shoot ? Maybe they should swap recepies before they swap bullets.....

    JFC
     
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    And how does he know its a cop ? Its a no-knock warrant ?
     
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    because they said they were cops.

    the type is warrent doesn’t matter. he didn’t see it...all that was done was a knock and announce they were police. that’s what the eyewitness said...and the investigation by the GJ found.
     
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    So after they said they were the police, Walker shot a cop, and then called the cops ?

    Take 5 minutes and think about that.......why would someone who just shot a cop, call the cops ?
     

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