Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...&utm_term=.4fa7b8bbcee5&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

The white guy locked himself in the hotel with his girlfriend ...He did not commit any crime .... But he was killed by the American police. ... The policeman was acquitted ... However, it is not surprising. Fascist state can kill its citizens completely with impunity.

Particularly powerless now in the US - a white man and not gay.

What do you think about it?

 

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39459/

 

It's what American cops do: shooting innocent people.
Happens on a regular basis, unfortunately, and they very, very often get away with it, unfortunately, just very American. It's not exclusive to third world dictatorships.

 

Shocking video. And this policeman was acquitted? I can't believe this.

 

I saw the video on the news this morning - absolutely shocking. The civil suits against the police department should be a slam dunk. The Mesa Police Dept. (and likely many others) need to seriously make wholesale changes to their training. The current training model will guarantee people who are unarmed and have surrendered are in mortal danger of being murdered (yes, murdered) by police.

 

The US is no different from the countries of the third world. State terror and dictatorship has long become the norm in the United States.

 

For totalitarian countries, such as the United States or Haiti of the Duvalier era, this behavior of policemen is the norm.

 

[QUOTE = "An Old Guy, должность: 1068377615, член: 69642"] I saw the video on the news this morning - absolutely shocking. The civil suits against the police department should be a slam dunk. The Mesa Police Dept. (and likely many others) need to seriously make wholesale changes to their training. The current training model will guarantee people who are unarmed and have surrendered are in mortal danger of being murdered (yes, murdered) by police. [/ QUOTE]
In reality, nothing can be changed. All this state terror is only a consequence. The reason is the current poetic-economic system in the USA.

 

The cops responded to a call of someone waving a rifle out of a hotel window (remember Las Vegas about a month ago?)
He was on the ground with the cops pointing guns at him telling him what to do. He ignored them and put his hand behind his back. The cops said that if he did that again they would shoot.
He begged them not to shoot him then put his hand behind his back again. They shot him.
Putting aside all the cries of "They should have (fill in the blank)", what would you have done in the cops position, wait until the guy pulled out a gun and started shooting at you?.

 

Seems like the distance between the cop and the poor Shaver wasn't too long, and Shaver wasn't wearing any wear where he could hide a gun. Shaver was laying on the floor and his back was clearly visible for the policeman. I'm pretty sure it was obvious Shaver didn't have any guns. Policeman acted like a maniac. He shouted at Shaver and completely disorientated him, so poor guy simply lost control of himself. The policeman-murderer had to make just three steps to immobilize Shaver but instead he preferred to shoot five bullets at unarmed confused man. It's a cold blood murder, nothing else. The maniac-policeman killed Shaver because he wanted to kill him.

 

If the guy was deaf, couldn't speak English, was mentally impaired, impaired by alcohol / drugs, shook up by the events happening and had any malady which could impair reaction to rapid fire instructions - he should be shot & killed, is this what you are saying? A man on the ground, unarmed and trying to comply with rapid fire instructions and in absolutely no position to harm anyone? Seriously?

 

And told to keep his hands visible at all times.

It appears the new demand for police is not to shoot until shot.

 

You apparently haven't seen video, the "danger" of the police being shot was nil. This was an extrajudicial killing, pure & simple, by idiots pumped up with their own priorities. The shooter, Brailsford, is just a young guy likely amped up by Sgt. Langley's ridiculous instructions, stretching what should been a routine arrest into a life & death matter, in the craziest possible way. The police are responsible for protecting everyone, including bad guys. This was as close to an extra judicial killing as it gets......and thankfully both police officers are gone from the force, before they can get more people killed.......

I didn't "demand for police not to shoot until shot" - quit making stuff up.

 

Stupid is as stupid does. No sympathy.

 

You may now riot.

 

What in the hell is the matter with some of you people? When the cops tell you to lie face down on the floor with your hands outstretched, but then you whip one hand around and reach down toward your waist (WHERE FIREARMS ARE COMMONLY KEPT ), what the hell do you expect?!

 

I've seen the video and the guy reached back to his waist and pulled something out. The cop made a snap decision and the man died. Sorry, he committed suicide by cop, he did pull something out of his waistband, and he died. 5f he had followed instructions he would be alive. It was justifiable.

 

Yep, its unbelievably that they don't see a problem here.

They even warned him if he didn't listen he would be shot, sure enough, he ignores him and does what he wants.

 

He pulled nothing out of his waistband, he was trying to pull his pants up, hell even the police agreed that's what he was trying to do. The entire episode was a classic case of how utterly wrong this approach was, and it got a man killed - for no good reason. This video will likely be added to police training programs across the country and around the world as a classic example of how NOT to do things.

 

The video was first banned from view on request from the defense. Something the judge agreed with. And what we got now, is edited just the way the judge wanted to. The judge also banned an exceptionally nasty comment as evidence that the cop drew on the dustcover of the cop. Because the judge believed it would be to damning for the cops character.

So knowing all that.... it's more like... what did you not see in the video with the courtesy of the judge to get him off?

 

You might want to watch this video . Fast forward to 4.00 minutes and you will hear the officer telling the suspect that he will be shot if he reaches for the small of his back. When he is shot, there is obviously a cylindrical object in his hand, it can clearly be seen.

 

he was acquitted because he did exactly what he was trained to do. DHS has been pushing a training curriculum on LE across the nation that promotes dominating and humiliating the public and shooting them at the first sign of anything that could possibly be hostile to the responding officer.

It seems likely to me that this officer deliberately terrorized that poor guy into a state of confusion in the hopes of catching an opportunity to get away with killing him. But we can't ASSUME that because thats precisely what he is TRAINED to do.

If you want this sort of thing to stop, we have to drastically alter how we are training our LE.

 

I've seen the video countless times and I came to the same conclusion as the investigators did, there was no object - he was trying to pull his shorts up. The investigators found no "object' which is why they came to their conclusion. An "object" being present would have aided the justification for the killing and you can be sure investigators would have promoted the discovery of this "object".

Shaver's shorts were falling down....and he was drunk. He reached back to pull his shorts up - a natural reflex, one that cost him his life - unnecessarily. Link below....one of many that states what the authorities said. There was no "object".

http://www.newser.com/story/252649/video-shows-cop-fatally-shooting-unarmed-man-in-hotel.html

 

Hindsight is always '20 - 20', and in the calm that comes AFTER a tragedy it is easy to see what went wrong.

But, there are lots of policemen's WIDOWS who can tell you that way too often when a perp makes a sudden movement with a hand toward the area of his waist that hand frequently comes back up with a WEAPON!

 

First saw this from Ben Shapiro and as a conservative he was outraged with the results of the trial. It looked to me that a scared, drunk man was confused by the rapid fire commands and the inability to do as requested, crawl toward me with legs crossed for example. The officers commands did not have to be so complicated, he could have had the man face down, hands on head and cuffed him. The hotel door was closed so there was no danger of someone around the corner shooting at them. Telling him he would be killed if he made a mistake gives you an idea of the officer's frame of mind and put even more stress and confusion on the man. That the officer was fired shows he was not blameless. The man's family will most likely win any civil suit.