Great Examples Why New Gun Laws Are Not Needed

Sorry but you failed to provide when it was introduced in the senate and the results of a vote. Till it is put on the floor it is just meaningless babble.

And if you actually read it it does absolutly not require a background check for all gun transfers or sales nor does it specify any penalties.

 

Why would the NRA get involved in preventing something that is already illegal?

Are you really that dumb to think they should?

 

That's your problem not mine, maybe you should have supported the bill and helped bring it to the floor.

 

So he hasn't bothered to submit it yet. And it actually does nothing. Suggest you actually read it.

 

Sorry what do you think is already illegal?

 

Because the problem has already been addressed, and a solution is already present and in place. It is simply being ignored because the solution is deemed to inconvenient by those calling for greater firearm-related restrictions.

 

That's usually the one thing a coke DEALER will spring for.

Coke head? sure. Dealer? Nah, he's got the money for a lawyer

 

Wow, great answer totally lacking in specifics or data or evidence. Thanks for the laughs.

 

The acquisition and possession of firearms by anyone with a disqualifying criminal record, regardless of the circumstances involved, is illegal. It is a felony offense, and can easily be prosecuted, regardless of how the firearm might have been acquired.

The problem has already been addressed, as the laws necessary to prosecute the offense exist and are available for use. All that needs be done is prosecutors actually doing their job, and prosecuting those who violate the laws.

 

Seems gun owners like to argue out of both sides of their mouth. Some claim that laws won't stop the bad guys from getting a gun since they are already criminals and some argue that all we need to do is enforce the laws we have to prevent the bad guys from having guns.

 

I have yet to see that. It is funny watching anti gun gadflies pretending they are smarter or more educated because the anti gun left assumes that smart people are statists who don't trust the citizenry to be armed.

 

What is true is that the motivations for additional laws-laws that only further restrict currently lawful non-harmful behavior by those who can legally own and use guns-has nothing to do with controlling crime. Harassing people because they have a different cultural outlook or political agenda than those who push gun restrictions, is the real motivation and it spills over in the arguments the restrictionists make in favor of the facade they promote.

 

It is obvious that additional laws will change what is currently lawful. And no the reason for new laws would be to reduce the rate of gun deaths in the US. It is not to harass people other than the people who should not be allowed to own guns.

Why gun fanatics and their organizations have such devotion to making sure America keeps leading the developed world in gun deaths defies rational thought.

 

When anti gunners claim that they are after criminals when they push for laws that only affect lawful gun users, we know their motivations are dishonest. If you want to at least look credible in your faux belief that it is crime you are trying to reduce, you might jettison the condescending and silly attacks on pro gun advocates and shift your acidity towards criminals.

 

Actually it is only the gun nuts that claim that the smart people don't trust the citizenry to be armed. I guess they somehow have a need to feel persecuted.

And supportings laws that try to reduce gun deaths is only anti gun in the minds of the people who somehow despite all actual evidence believe that more guns in more hands somehow makes us safer. Most of use who are rational have no problem with guns being in the hands of people who are responsible, law abiding, and mentally stable enough to use guns properly.

And yes I know you can find some nuts that will want to ban all guns just like I can find nuts who think everyone should be able to own a gun and take a gun into any venue and advocate open carry in all situations. Quite simply there are extremists on both sides.

 

Well your definition of gun nuts is one I agree with. Real gun nuts are those who are terrified about honest citizens owning firearms. . And just stop the nonsense. Crap like "magazine limits" or "assault weapon bans" are not intended-by those who draft such laws-to decrease crime or violence. They are designed to pander to the slow witted masses who have been agitated by the media into demanding simple solutions to complex problems and pushed by left wing politicians who are mad that gun owners vote against them.

I have yet to meet any pro rights advocate-in the 45 years I have been active in this issue-who is in favor that anyone can own any gun they want and carry it in any venue. In fact, the NRA and many other gun advocates, are big supporters of programs that send violent felons, caught with firearms, to the US Attorney's office for more severe prosecution than that what is available at a state level. BTW it was two anti gun groups-the ACLU and the NAACP that opposed such programs.

 

If the laws are not being enforced to punish illegal acts after they have been committed, then they do not work. Laws exist to define an act or action as being unacceptable to society, and define what punishment the commission of the act can be met with in response. They do not serve to physically prevent an act from occurring, they only exist for after-the-fact once the crime has indeed been committed.

The very fact firearm-related restrictions are routinely not being enforced except in rare circumstances, demonstrates precisely why they do not work, as they are not being used. And as the firearm-related restrictions that already exist are not being enforced against those who violate them, there is no legitimate argument for new firearm-related restrictions to be implemented.

 

And so tell us what the NRA and other gun manufacturers lobbyists have proposed to stop the gun carnage in the US.

 

Will do when any of you actually have an idea or proposal to reduce the gun carnage in the US.

 

we do-its called shooting back at those who are violent criminals, and training more and more people to carry firearms skillfully and concealed. And unlike people such as you-we don't engage in specious laws that we know won't work but pretend they do-and unlike the anti gun movement-we don't trod all over the constitution.

I also spent 24 years as a federal prosecutor. Trust me-if violent criminals got more time in prison, that would do far more to decrease the "carnage" that stupid laws pretending to stop criminals but which are designed to harass lawful gun ownership

 

Is that a requirement of an organization that protects our constitutional rights? Do you demand that the ACLU give us proposals on how to stop kiddie porn? DO you demand that the NAACP come up with ways to reduce

1) the skyrocketing cases of illegitimacy in the black community and
2) the huge number of black upon black murders and blacks failing to complete school?

 

So to put it simply you have no ideas except more guns.

 

Thanks for proving that the NRA has no ideas and is just a sales arm of the gun manufacturesrs lobby.

 

You apparently don't bother reading other posts where I noted the NRA was a major sponsor of felons being prosecuted federally. But thanks for proving to others what I already knew-most of the anti gun drivel is comes from those who don't like the political agendas NRA supported politicians pursue.

 

Yes like I said the NRA has done nothing to stop gun deaths.