Green New Deal

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This morning, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez released an overview of her “Green New Deal” which threatens "a massive transformation of our society."

    Rebuild every single building in the U.S.

    “Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency.”

    Will end all traditional forms of energy in the next ten years.

    The Green New Deal is “a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society at a scale not seen since World War 2 to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions.”

    Plans to ban nuclear energy within 10 years if possible.

    “It’s unclear if we will be able to decommission every nuclear plant within 10 years, but the plan is to transition off of nuclear and all fossil fuels as soon as possible.”

    Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!

    “Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary”.

    Mandates all new jobs be unionized.

    “Ensure that all GND jobs are union jobs that pay prevailing wages and hire local.”

    How will it be paid for? Don’t worry about that.

    How much will it cost?

    No estimate of the total cost of implementing the Green New deal is offered by Ocasio-Cortez.

    However, as Ocasio-Cortez admits, “even if every billionaire and company came together and were willing to pour all the resources at their disposal into this investment, the aggregate value of the investments they could make would not be sufficient.”

    She does provide one estimate that the cost to “repair and upgrade infrastructure U.S. infrastructure” alone will cost “$4.6 trillion at minimum”.

    https://www.atr.org/green-new-deal-air-travel-stops-becoming-necessary

    This woman is batshit crazy. There isn't going to be a 600 mph train. She can't mandate jobs be unionized - she doesn't control the companies hiring.
     
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    There is a point where even the uninformed get a waft of reality; understanding that there is not an unlimited flow of $ from the supposed endless spigot of the wealthy. They start to question how a their entitlements can continue to exist if those funding their free s--t are not incentivized to keep earning.

    Many subsets that do struggle, that work with their hands (the backbone of America) realize that they have been getting smoke blown up their arse's under the pantomime of 'compassionate' entitlement promises. The Dems pour it on thick, a honey pocient into the ears of the most vulnerable. 2016 might be an indication that the Dem's lies about entitlements since the 1960's (LBJ) might be less convincing than they used to be, lol.
     
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    Where does she think the energy is going to come from? It doesn't grow on trees. 90% of our energy comes from fossil fuels and nuclear. I'm not saying we shouldn't work to increase the share of clean renewable energy, but that isn't going to happen in 10 years.
     
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    When is the left going to realize that AOC is their cartoonish version of trump?
     
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    I don't know a lot about her but looking at her proposal it almost sounds like she has zero previous political experience, is naive, and is only in her 20's or something.
     
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    What a coinkydink, all the above are true (not just 'seemingly' so), lol. (naivete' is subjective, so I'll cede on that point)
     
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    She's obviously a closet communist, as she wants the government to control virtually every aspect of our lives. The USSR didn't work out so good, so there's that.
     
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    The total cummulative number of leftists who have asked that question over the years, on ANY legislation they propose, is zero.
    The total cummulative number of leftists who have the question "how many votes will it get us?" over the years numbers in the billions. :)
     
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    The "Green New Deal" as presented above does sound "over the top", but if the global warming forecast is accurate we may be in much bigger trouble if we don't make significant changes in the next 10 to 20 years. If we don't make the big changes and investment soon, our children and grandchildren might get to see the coastal cities, Florida, and Mar-a-Lago under water. Our investment now would be peanuts compared the cost of saving our country and the world then.

    I don't want to believe in global warming, but the evidence keeps getting stronger. For the sake of our children we need to base our decisions on facts, truth, honesty and rational thought. We can not depend on emotion or "religion", and we can't hide behind psychiatric problems.
     
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    I love this new plan!! Apparently even if I'm stone-ass lazy as hell I won't ever have to work again!! I love her!! Who want to work when the government will pay me to sit on my arse!! Where have you been all my life, AOC!!

    • A government-guaranteed job. The bill promises the United States government will provide every single American with a job that includes a “family-sustaining wage, family and medical leave, vacations, and a pension.” You can imagine that those left in the private sector would be funding these through some unspecified “massive” taxation. On the bright side, when you’re foraging for food, your savings will be worthless.
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/02/07/ten-most-insane-requirements-green-new-deal/

    I just LOVE the image they included in their critic-article of this insane plan:

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    Let them go with it, shout it to the rooftops, LW, winner winner chicken dinner for sure! This is exactly the kind of moonbattery that gave Reagan the biggest landslide in my adult lifetime. It's almost as if they are campaigning directly for Donald Trump.
     
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    This would be worth it just to watch Hirono go back and forth to Hawaii in a canoe.
     
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    This is just too good to not share:

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    Just like when Leo and Gore fly to Davos on their private jets, the elites will figure out a way around all the massive gov't regulations that they'll make the rest of us follow.
     
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    .....RUSSIANS!!! SHE'S A RUSSIAN PLANT!! Now it all makes sense.....
     
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    No, she is just plain ****ing dumb.
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    Trains on oceans. Wow.
     
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    This woman is beyond stupid and should never be allowed to get anywhere near a position where she is allowed to make decisions.

    I am not a climate denier - and in fact worked in environmental clean up for a long time - specializing in alternative remediation technologies.

    It is one thing to want to deal with global environmental issues - suggesting completely ridiculous solutions (while ignoring real steps that could be done) is not the path to glory or sanity.
     
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    Well, at least there is a lot of wiggle room between this and the GOP proposal of just watch the world burn.
     
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    I know how to pay for it we target all other nations large to smallest with our nukes and demand each chip in to fund it say a third of their income as nations or we pop off nukes on the ones who refuse, and cut key spending here well if everyone has a good government job and such no need for welfare and the armed forces could be reduced since we only need the nuclear forces we have. And a basic defensive force. And walls on the borders North and South.

    But well if we are going to fund this we need a lot of money so why not a bit of blackmail.

    But I am happy letting the government take care of me and why not do a version of the Chinese Social Credit System so people here be nicer to each other and do good things.
     
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    This is simply a Socialist Manifesto, as it addresses many many issues that are far away from just environmental issues.
     
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    You mean like France and Venezuela?
     
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    AOC is taking the left off a cliff.

    Bye-bye!
     
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    She's an idiot, but also a democrat so I'm repeating myself.

    Her real value is much like Trump in that she's a nightmare for the democratic party. Every time she opens her mouth, she whittles away at the democratic party's corporate donor class.
     
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