Green New Deal

Well, if we raise temperatures past 7 degrees, much of America will become desert and Alaska will be a much better farming option. Also, many of our major cities will be flooded and need relocation. The Russians and Canadians will do really well.

 

Did you just call me a leftist? I think you're seriously confused.

 

If that's going to happen, the US isn't going to stop it.

If we got rid of all technology and started grazing on grass, the remaining 86% of carbon emissions from countries like China and India would only increase.

 

Sen. Kamala Harris has jumped on board and endorsed the "Green New Deal."

DNC...I think you have a major malfunction taking place.

 

Not really no. All it winds up doing is making hacks like albore rich through the sale of green indulgences while limiting the mobility and freedom of the poor and middle class.

 

The "Green" New Deal? It must be boogers.

 

While raising costs on those who can least afford it.

 

Bull. That's what they told those poor suckers in California, which is why they have the highest fuel taxes in the country and they still have the dirtiest air in the country. It was always about the taxes and never about the air quality.

 

Taxing something out of existence doesn't work. If your truck gets poor gas mileage you buy more gas and pay more taxes because you buy more gas.
What about old cars and trucks that get crappy mileage? They get a pass? Your saying you can pollute as much as you want as long as you're properly taxed - so again it's not about GW, it's about taxes.
Utilities are not like other businesses. If you use less electricity, the price will go up. Imagine if half the users on a grid turned off power to their houses. The power company must maintain the complete grid with half the customers it had before - hence a price increase for everyone. There isn't much a power company can do to lower it's overhead.

 

I said that the tax is on new cars only, old cars get a pass, and 15 years from now "all" the old cars will be off the road by accident or old age. When you sell the car or get its inspection the milage is noted and you get a tax based on the milage you used. You have a big 8 cyl 400 hp car and use only use it 6000 miles a year, you pay 1/2 the tax of someone who uses it 12,000 miles a year etc.

The point is fine, you want to be a gas pig you pay for the privilege. The tax will decrease the demand for such beasts so that save pollution, but you can still have your toy it just costs you more.

If you use less they need to produce less, build less power plants there is a savings, yes there is a fixed overhead but that overhead is constant. You add 1000 homes homes to a power grid of 10,000 it is not adding 10% more fixed costs but probably 2%, your not building a new power plant you are just providing service to 1000 more customers, a poor example would be If we could save 10% of our electricity we could take off line the 50 worse polluting old plants.

 

The major cities are dumps anyway. Time for the earth to heal itself.

 

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
"Climate change and our environmental challenges are one of the biggest existential threats to our way of life - not just as a nation, but as a world.

And in order for us to combat that threat, we must be as ambitious and innovative in our solution as possible.

So what we doing today in introducing these resolutions here today is that it's not a bill, it is a resolution and what this resolution is doing is saying is this is our first step.

Our first step is to define the problem and define the scope of the solution.

And so we are here to say that small incremental policy solutions are not enough - they can be part of a solution but they are not the solution unto itself.

There is no justice and there is no combating climate change without addressing what has happened to indigenous communities.

That means that there is no fixing our economy without addressing the racial wealth gap.

That means that we are not going to transition to renewable energies without also transitioning frontline communities
and coal communities into economic opportunity as well.

That is what this is about. It is comprehensive. It is thoughtful. It is compassionate and it is extremely economically strategic as well.

Today is also the day that we choose to assert ourselves as a global leader in transitioning to 100% renewable energy and charting that path.

That means that we are not going to peg ourselves by the lowest standards of other nations.

It doesn't mean that we are going to say -
"What about them - they're not doing it."
"What about them - they're not doing it - why should we?"

We should do it because we should lead. We should do it because that is what this nation is about.

We should do it because we are a country founded on ideals, of a culture that is innovative, that cares for our brothers
and sisters across this country.

We should do it because we are an example to the world.That is why we should do it.

And we need to save ourselves and we can save the rest of the world with us. That is why we should do it.

And that's why define the scope of this resolution to be so broad and to be so comprehensive.

US Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, and US Senator Ed Markey (R), Democrat of Massachusetts, speak during a press conference to announce Green New Deal legislation to promote clean energy programs outside the US Capitol in Washington, DC, February 7, 2019.

Because we are outlining the Green New Deal and in the spirit of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we have the Green New
Deal and we have Green New Deal projects.


The Tennessee Valley Authority was a New Deal project that was part of a larger vision and today we are laying down what
that larger vision is.

So when people say - "What about this?" or "What about that?"
The answer isn't - "This is why it's not in here"
The answer is - "That is part of the solution too".

And so I hope you all see that. I hope you all see the scope and the scale because the solution is not going to come from just one Congresswoman from the Bronx, it's not going to come just from one Senator.

It's going to come from all of our representatives as a country saying
"This is what Iowa needs."
"This is what Virginia needs."
"This is what Michigan needs."
"This is what Illinois needs."
and "This is what New York needs."

Because when have this threat that challenges all of us, the solution is going to take all of us too."


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

 

I think that U should send in a check for some additional GB hard drive storage, lol.

 

More like IDIOTRECOGNITIONSYNDROME

 

Thats why we need a global solution to global warming. I think we are screwed for the next several hundred thousand years.

 

But that reduced mobility will dramatically reduce global warming if implemented globally and benefit our descendants for hundreds of thousands of years.

 

Whats worse, rising costs today, or hundreds of thousands of years of impact?

 

Green New Deal

I'm all for it as long as government isn't involved. The private sector can work out what is best and how best to do it. No laws or mandates required.

 

Rising costs today. The alternative is hyperbole.

 

Ok, aerosol pollution and CO2 emissions aren't the same thing. In fact pollution actually reduces temperature.

 

Only if the least likely/worst case computer model is to be believed. Observed science is dropping out of the bottom of the best case computer model. The constant drumbeat of hearing ‘climate change’ for every weather event is uneducated propaganda. Weather was more extreme in the 30s and 50s but you will never know that if you only listen to politicians, the very few alarmist scientists, or the media. If you read ALL of the science, solar scientists are predicting coming cooling based on the lowest solar activity since the Dalton Minimum.

 

I'm here today and I don't give a flying hoot about "thousands of years of impact", whatever that mean.

 

And all California wants is more people.

 

Those that survive starvation and inability to get to a doctor in timely fashion.

 

40% of the world population lives near the ocean and the impact of warming will cost the global economy tens of trillions of dollars. I know that to you thats not a big deal at all.