Ground Invasion Only Way to Destroy North Korea’s Nuclear Arsenal, Pentagon Says

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  1. Ddyad

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    How does that contradict what he said after we failed to achieve victory in the Korean War?
     
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    Why dont you say it again just to remove confusion?
     
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    Mac, the current high command would resign before doing that.
     
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    Many of them are obama moles who should be gone anyway

    Have you heard that up to 60 admirals may have to resign retire or be courts marshaled due to a bribery scandal?
     
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    MacArthur did not waffle on the issue of achieving victory in war.

    MacArthur, if we can assume he meant what he said, would reject any military action that was not aimed at achieving a final unambiguous victory that would preclude further warfare of any kind from the enemy as quickly as possible.

    I think MacArthur was right, but I doubt that many of our current military leaders would agree with MacArthur.
     
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    Link?
     
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    The corruption does not surprise me. That they got caught does surprise me.
     
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    Much of the high command should be fired. Generally, peacetime commanders make terrible war commanders anyway. In war, you replace the military bureaucrats.
     
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    It is not "North Korea." It is specifically Kim Jung Un.
     
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    The Air Force would not even bomb the bridges into Korea as Chinese troops were pouring across them to savage our troops.
    Do you think are current military leaders are more aggressive?
     
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    Another good argument for not initiating war with NK at this time. The real issue should involve our strategy to win if NK attacks.
     
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    well SK is firmly oppose any war in NK, so does japan, Russia, china.
     
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    I dont think anyone in the Pentagon wants to nuke china today like macarthur did then

    To me removing the north korean icbm capability is achievable and absolutely necessary
     
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    I have not heard that claim before and seriously doubt it happened
     
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    South korea is not opposed to war as a last resort

    They just want to try negotiations first
     
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    1) no they arn't
    2) I would hope you would not judge a whole continent which has many different nations on the basis of a few idiots ?
    3) Just because some poster (be it from Europe or the USA) points out something our Military or Politicians or certain people have done that conflicts with your perspective ... does not mean they are "dripping with hate toward America"

    Your past comments in this and other posts drip of xenophobia and they often lack logic.
     
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    nope pretty sure they oppose the war. your link on this?

    here is mine, SK say it over and over again, they don't want another war. they already live under NK threat of Nuke,artillery etc. No point for them to want a war. War is something we want it, not them

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/war-kim-jong-un-must-not-happen-south-korea-says-n817836

     
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    Aggressive war is illegal. I would expect most if not all of our high command to reject any first strike against NK.

    If a raid was conducted that started a conventional ground war a massive anti-war movement would materialize instantly.
     
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    Look it up. The Air Forced refused to bomb the bridges over the Yalu River even as Chinese forces streamed across them.
     
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    “But Kang warned that "we need to be very careful about military options," adding that they "are there to give strength to diplomacy."”

    Which is doubletalk

    The current government is very liberal so the typical illogic of most liberals is to be expected

    Notice they have not asked us to leave

    Because they know that south korea cannot stand up to north korea and china with the US
     
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    its basically use military as bluff. Sk has no intention to give US go ahead on full scale war in NK. they already under threat from various weapon from NK, they don't gain anything.
     
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    No its your claim and your responsibility to back it up

    Early in the war we discovered that the propeller driven B-29 could not survive against the new MIG 15 jets and they were pulled from service pending the arrival of the F86

    But refuse any mission given to them by the president on moral grounds?

    I dont think so
     
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    The bluff does work if you show them your as kang just did
     
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    "Aggressive war" is not illegal and it is not the "high command's" decision. As I stated, in warfare it is best to replace nearly all of the high command anyway as they are essentially political bureaucrats. Military command does not make decisions of whether to go to war. Civilian leadership does.

    In war, always far more Americans support the war than oppose it - and anti-war protests usually more rally Americans to the troops and war effort. It would be difficult to imagine what would better help Trump's popularity than "massive anti-war protests" in response to Trump preventing Kim Jung Un obliterating the 10 greatest American cities, Tokyo and Seoul as he has vowed to do.

    I understand some Democrats insist that the only time you can act in self defense is AFTER someone has shot you. I understand many Democrats insist that the USA can ONLY militarily act AFTER the USA has been obliterated with tens of millions dead, millions more dying, and our economy permanently obliterated.

    They also want us to abandon our alliance with Japan and South Korea, telling them we won't defend them anymore and they will just have to build their own nuclear weapons arsenal as they must not rely upon us. If we won't defend ourselves we certainly won't defend them.
     

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