Gun Control Brain Storm

Are you tired of seeing them killed by unlicensed drivers as well, 8400 a year. How about the 9,878 killed every year by drink drivers? How about......

Deaths per 100,000 population:

Accidents (unintentional injuries) 38.4
Salmonella infections 26
Nontransport accidents 25.7
Whooping cough 15
Drug-induced deaths 12.8
Intentional self-harm (suicide) 12.0
Motor Vehicle Accidents 11.8
Alcohol-induced deaths 8.0
Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms 6.1
Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms 3.7

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf

You are 7 times more likely to die of Salmonella from a bad piece of undercooked chicken than being killed by someone with a gun.

You are 6.9 times more likely to die of an untentional accident like slip and fall than being killed by someone with a gun.

You are 4 times more likely to die of Whooping Cough than being killed by someone with a gun.

You are 3.5 times more likely to die of using drugs than being killed by someone with a gun.

You are 3.2 times more likely to die of a Car Accident than being killed by someone with a gun.

You are 2.2 times more likely to die of a drinking too much Alcohol than being killed by someone with a gun.

You are 1.6 times more likely to die of killing YOURSELF intentionally with a gun than being killed by someone else with a gun.

The 81,618 who died from eating a piece of bad under cooked chicken?

 

Hey, NYC, how much time have you spent on the police force??? None??? Of course not other wise you would know that the police are mainly report takers. Very rarely do they EVER get to the scene of the crime before the perpetrator is long gone. Kennesaw, Georgia should be the model everyone should be emulating.

 

I get real tired of leftist blaming people's opinions on FOX NEWS. Maybe we should start reversing it and saying we can't help it if you get your ideas from CNN and NBC. And you REALLY think YOUR fair and balanced??? You leftist seem to think the Bill of Rights are the Bill of Needs. You see killing the unborn in the 14th Amendment but not the right to own firearms in the 2nd Amendment. Next, you will be telling us that food, housing, clothing, medical care, computers, phones, cars, utility bills, swimming pools, air conditioners, oil changes, and gas for the car are ALL Constitutional RIGHTS!!!

 

To be fair last I saw of Fox News and (years ago) and right wing radio (every now and then) they totally blow things out of proportion. That said they do, at times, point out real issues.

Fact of the matter is though that all this gun control BS is not worth pursuing and is nothing more than a punishment for legitimate gun owners. It's all about doing something for the sake of doing something, the same as many laws before it. The difference is that this one has stirred up a hornets nest because unlike many issues (smoking, drinking, soda, cellphones) this one has a dedicated lobby, and is a constitutional right. It's a shame some many hate freedom, but that's the society we live in.

 

Just what I'd expect out of a big-government New Yorker.

Needless to say, I reject every word of the OP's screed.

 

That is an issue. But I think that keeping the guns locked up or being asked to provide a reasoning for why that is not possible is legit.

Cops may be too close to this kind of stuff to not be constantly fearful of violence, they see it daily. Perhaps I am more naive too , who knows...

 

What stat do I need to show you ? Sorry I have a lot of things going on, I got 2 hours of sleep last night, brain does not work today.. lol I don't recall missing something here...

 

I think that gun needs to be tracked better, that will resolve a lot of the middle man issues in my opinion. So dealer X has to account for the sales in a national tracker and those to forge that information could face REAL serious fines etc... Thinking out loud here..

 

Gun dealers are already required to keep detailed records of every transaction.

 

Yes but I want to close the loopholes, from what I've read it's still a problem.

 

What loopholes are there concerning gun dealer record keeping?

 

What loopholes are these? Do you mean the illegal gun trade that the US government itself participated in--closing that loophole? Yeh, I'm afraid we'll never find those guns until they kill some people in our inner cities.

 

What you are really saying is that "dealers can't break the laws". They are selling guns to the people either using middlemen or circumventing the rules. I think we need to put a name on who, what, where and why guns are sold. Create an accountable trail.

 

No, that is not at all what I said. I asked, "What loopholes are there concerning gun dealer record keeping?"

It was pretty straightforward. You stated that you wanted "the loopholes" closed and I asked what loopholes you were referring to.

 

I don't have the details but it was mentioned in the research I was conducting. I think it's not really that important because I'm trying to address a broader issue of who ends up with guns and why.

 

Since even Joe Biden has publicly admitted that no law will either stop massacres or day-to-day urban murders, what possible justifucation is there for further attenuation of Second Amendment rights?

In fact a number of measures on the books should be repealed since they serve no useful purpose.

 

(number of legal gun owners who used their gun to commit crime / number of legal gun owners who have not used their gun to commit crime)*100

This is your chance of getting hit by lightning in the USA: .000357%
This is your chance of being a victim of gun violence: (you post answer here)

 

Well your chance of being struck by lightening is lower.

More Guns = More Gun Homicides, Statistically Speaking.

 

Which is why Washington DC was the murder capital of the US and Chicago has a murder rate that accounts for 5% of the nations murders (while representing less than 1% of the population).

 

Most of the victims of violence were wearing underwear at the time of the crime.

More underwear = More violence, statistically speaking.

 

{{""".......and other military weapons."""}}}

Takes in a lot of territory, Dag. You want a person to pay $10,000 a year for the privilege of owning a 1808 Springfield??? Hey, Dag, that WAS a military weapon in it's day. A AR-15 has NEVER been a military weapon so what have you achieved???

 

Check the numbers in your graphic. Gun manufacturing and gun ownership are trending upwards while gun homicides are trending down. So, while correlation doesn't equal causation, that becomes a moot point concerning your claim since you haven't even shown the correlation that you thought existed. It would seem that the opposite correlation exists though...

 

Where did you come up with the magic age of 26???

 

And that's just what they did in Czechoslovakia and we all know how that turned out, don't we??? No?? Here you go;

http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html