Gun Control Debunked

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ethereal, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,438
    Likes Received:
    9,438
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe, just maybe, there was one, Honest Abe. But probably there was no Lincoln Derangement Syndrome back then.
     
  2. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,444
    Likes Received:
    11,179
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I like your sentiment, but Chicago likely has the most stringent gun controls of anywhere already.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,630
    Likes Received:
    26,721
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    1. The most essential narrative promoted by proponents of gun control is that gun homicides in the USA is a major problem that everyone must be worried about.

    Nope. The essential narrative promoted by proponents of gun control is we as a country have a problem with gun violence. There's too much of it. We need to act like any rational society would and take steps to make sure there is less of it. End of story.
     
  4. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,228
    Likes Received:
    11,133
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That is not the end of the story. How the pro gun control group wants to end it is the problem.
     
  5. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A rational society would identify which individuals are responsible for the overwhelming majority of firearm-related violence, and go about removing said individuals from society for the duration of their natural lives, so they can no longer pose a risk of harm to anyone. A rational society would not be looking for the easy way out by scapegoating an inanimate object while pretending the people are not the problem.
     
  6. BobbyJoe

    BobbyJoe Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2016
    Messages:
    5,823
    Likes Received:
    1,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's rational?

    So you get rid of all the guilty people, and from now on everyone in the future will be law abiding. So now that that is solved, you don't need guns anymore!

    What a brilliant idea.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2019
  7. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There will always be a legitimate need for firearms, as there will always be those who decide to disregard the rules of society and victimize others for their own private benefit. Such is a constant of the real world. But that constant is not grounds for continually letting known problematic individuals back into society, after they have already demonstrated that they will not adhere o the rules of society. Such is the metaphorical equivalent of the farmer allowing the fox to freely enter the hen house, despite knowing it will kill and eat all of the chickens inside of it.
     
  8. BobbyJoe

    BobbyJoe Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2016
    Messages:
    5,823
    Likes Received:
    1,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So the people that commit mass shootings all had done it before?
     
  9. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    it's sad that people think that gang crime is a good reason to take away good people's constitutional rights.
     
  10. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mass shootings amount to a statistically minute, bordering on insignificant, amount of firearm-related deaths in the united states each year. Add up all the number of deaths from all mass shootings in the united states in a given year, and it will still be a smaller number than the number of firearm-related deaths in the city of Chicago alone.
     

Share This Page