Gun death rate surpasses car death rate

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  1. Galileo

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    "The CDC’s WONDER public health database shows that 39,773 people died from firearms last year. That works out to a gun death rate of 12.0 per 100,000 people — higher than the rate of death from car accidents of 11.5 per 100,000 people, once the leading cause of fatal injury."
    https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-death-rate-2017-increase-cdc-suicide/

    This is concerning. The car ownership rate is more than double the gun ownership rate. The average American is much more likely to be regularly exposed to the risks of using a car than using a gun. But somehow gun deaths have surpassed car deaths.....
     
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    What should we do, Gal?
     
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    Time for real gun control
     
  4. Galileo

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    Treat guns like other public safety issues.

    "We don’t ban cars, but we work hard to regulate them – and limit access to them – so as to reduce the death toll they cause. This has been spectacularly successful, reducing the death rate per 100 million miles driven by 95 percent since 1921."
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/06/opinion/how-to-reduce-shootings.html
     
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    So get enough people to support laws that are Constitutional, effective, enforceable and would be enforced.

    Rights are not dependent upon statistics.
     
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    If guns were regulated like cars we could save thousands lives
     
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    "What I have said is precisely what you suggested, which is why don’t we treat this like every other thing that we use? We used to have really bad auto fatality rates. The auto fatality rate has actually dropped precipitously, drastically, since I was a kid. Why is that? We decided we had seatbelt laws. We decided to have manufacturers put airbags in place. We decided to crack down on drunk driving and texting. We decided to redesign roads so that they were less likely to have a car bank. We studied what is causing these fatalities using science and data and evidence, and then we slowly treated it like the public health problem it was, and it got reduced. We are not allowed to do any of that when it comes to guns because people -- if you propose anything, it is suggested that we're trying to wipe away gun rights and impose tyranny and martial law. Do you know that Congress will not allow the Centers for Disease Control to study gun violence? They're not allowed to study it because the notion is, is that by studying it, the same way we do with traffic accidents, somehow that's going to lead to everybody's gun being confiscated."
    -Barack Obama

     
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    Oh, I don't know. We've done absolutely nothing so far.

    Why not just quit while we're behind....
     
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    Once again to point out the obvious. The right to arms is a Constitutional guarantee. The right to a car is not.
     
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    Every right has restrictions. For the second amendment we call them gun control
     
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    If we all started walking to get where we needed to go and carrying bats for protection we could save thousands of lives. And if we could get everyone to stop eating at McDonald's and Burger King.....
     
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    What do we call restrictions on religion?
     
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    That is why we must balance freedom with safety. Extremists on both sides are wrong.....but we have very very lax gun laws in the US
     
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    FLDS can not have multiple wives is one example of a restriction on religion
     
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    And convicted felons can't buy guns yet both are still happening.
     
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    Yes and both are illegal....which makes it harder to do those things and get away with it....but not impossible
     
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    Interestingly I believe neither should be illegal. If a person wants more than one spouse I'm good with that. If a person has been convicted of a felony and served their time then they should have all their rights reinstated.

    Live and let live.
     
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    I don't really disagree with you depending on the felony but the point remains that all rights have restrictions
     
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    Who decides what the restrictions are?
     
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    We the people thru our elected representatives
     
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    And what process is used? Majority rules?
     
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    There are different rules for federal or state laws such as filibuster requirements.....some may require two thirds majority and some simple majority...then you have veto rules as well


    Are you not an American?
     
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    I always knew cars were more dangerous. A one ton bullet.
     

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