Gun Grabbers Set Their Sights Beyond Bump Stocks

Registration exists in many places without prohibition. The evidence it works is clear and the inconvenience minor

 

You confuse hate with disdain here. I've lived there and unlike the other corrupt third world banana republics you like to comfort yourself with your first world nation is supposedly educated enough to know better by now. Your developed society actually chooses the gun violence contnue without interruption in order that your guns are safe

All other developed nations quite rightly take a different view as their relative gun crimes rates testify

 

Because freedom has a price that the wimps in the rest of the world don't have the weight in their nutsacks to pay

 

Only in the US is freedom defined as having the facility to kill one another easily.

Other developed nations have a greater freedom than US citizenry will never know. The freedom from a fear of being shot at any moment

 

But no run over, assaulted or raped. Got it.

 

Their gun crimes do but their murder rates dont. Your just changing one type of killing for another. America is 92nd in murder rate, and you want to pretent its some barbaric nation. 99.9999% of american get along everyday. I know its hard for some to cope with the fact that the US is more free, its people are happier, our military will wipe the floor with anyone elses, and we are given more opportunities here than any other nation. That makes some people butthurt.

 

Well, that’s wrong. Since when was the US the only country that allows its citizens the right to bear arms? We aren’t even the only one that allows semiauto cabines.

And in most gun owners minds it is the right to protect our families, property, and self. The leftist gun control policies that are not enforced have created the “illegal” gun issue we have, and we will not give up our right to defend ourselves against that just because semiauto carbines make people who don’t know about guns $h1t their pants.

 

totally dodges what I said...truly , you are one of the faithful

 

I sure am

 

Registration also exists in many places with both prohibition and confiscation. Such facts cannot be denied. However there is no evidence that the registration of firearms does anything to actually prevent crimes from occurring, or that registration has been invaluable in solving crimes, to the point that doing such would be impossible without it.

 

States that have it have lower gun deaths. Year in and year out. Overwhelming evidence

 

The above not amount to evidence that the registration of firearms is an instrumental, indispensable aspect that is integral to such. There is no evidence, none whatsoever, to even suggest that an absence of firearms registration would result in a significantly higher number of firearm-related deaths.

Beyond such, the above argument falls apart when it is pointed out just how many firearms are trafficked into these states, thus making firearms registration useless. How does firearms registration lead a a lower number of firearm-related deaths, when it does not affect firearms that were sold outside of the state?

 

Nope it's great evidence. Registration needs to be federal. It works great

 

If such does indeed work "great" then explain why a convicted felon in the state of California was able to successfully commit a mass shooting last week, with firearms he could not legally possess, and magazines that hold more than ten rounds of ammunition, when they cannot be legally purchased or possessed in the state.

 

Ok, here is an eloquent answer, once more....

Cesare Beccaria

Much of what Cesare Beccaria wrote in "On Crimes and Punishments" in 1764 still holds true today.


Often laws are promoted not by criminologists or "dispassionate students of human nature" but by passionate organisations with narrow minded goals and missions. With a desired end result of introducing legislation that suits their purpose only.



On legislation; Let the laws be clear and simple, let the entire force of the nation be united in their defence, let them be intended rather to favour every individual than any particular classes of men; let the laws be feared, and the laws only. The fear of the laws is salutary, but the fear of men is a fruitful and fatal source of crimes.


On oaths; Oaths are useless, because it will not make a liar tell the truth, "every judge can be my witness that no oath ever make any criminal tell the truth"

1. make sure laws are clear and simple,
2. make sure that the entire nation is united in defense,
3. laws not against classes of men, but of men,
4. men must fear laws and nothing else,
5. certainty of outcome of crime,
6. member of society must have knowledge because enlightenment accompanies liberty,
7. reward virtue,
8. perfect education,
9. direct the interest of the magistracy as a whole to observance rather than corruption of the laws.

If these nine principles are followed there would be less of a need to follow the other principles of trial and punishments.

On gun control; "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.

Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty--so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator--and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer?

Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve to rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree. "

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References
Cesare Beccaria, An Essay on Crimes and Punishments

 

There are hundreds of millions of dead people killed by government in your cool little developed nations this past century

 

Does registration stop people from stealing cars or trucks ?
Has it ever stopped anyone from stealing cars or trucks or my Motorcycle ?
No.
Do I want no registration of automotive, motor vehicles ?
Obviously not, but I will not be fooled into thinking that registration prevents theft.

Registration of firearms will not prevent theft, and criminals are protected from self incrimination and are exempt from the registration requirements of firearms.

Registration of firearms only tracks up to the last legitimate buyer, after it is stolen, firearms registration is useless in tracking that firearm further.

 

It does not matter how many times you offer this post hoc argument - it remains fallacious.

 

There is a flow of escalation. If you can subdue a subject, that is always preferable... but like it or not there are times when deadly force is necessary and justified.

 

I must locate more outrage and paranoia.