Gun owner goes on shooting rampage after argument with wife

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Galileo, May 28, 2017.

  1. QLB

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    So sorry petting the rabbits didn't help.
     
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    Try petting them again. LOL
     
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    A lot of have. Clint Smith, Mas Ayoob, Gunsite, Blackwater just to name a few. Next.
     
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    But they won't let you without supervision. Remember what happened the last time? So much for the truce.
     
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    Yep you lose.....again. LOL
     
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    Please stop feeding the trolls.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. LOL
     
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    Please, you've set the bar so low you need a backhoe to dig the hole so you can declare victory.
     
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    I'm going to go easy on you from now on.....probably. LOL
     
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    And I'll bring you your favorite comics. BTW you're derailing. Reported.
     
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    We need more gun control to help prevent incidents like this in the future. LOL
     
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    In the city of Nice, in the nation of France, eighty six individuals were murdered in a span of less than five minutes by one individual operating a motor vehicle. It does not matter if motor vehicles are not intended for the purpose of killing, it does nothing to change the fact that a motor vehicle intended purely for transport, was instrumental in a worse mass killing than any firearm available in the united states.
     
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    I prefer TDI on southern Ohio. I don't have any use for "my way or the highway" some of those big name facilities teach only the weaver stance. I don't think anyone has even placed at a USPSA area shoot shooting weaver in at least 20 years, And I mean those of us shooting limited , single stack or production, not compensated unlimited guns. Ayoob is pretty good on most things-especially the legal aspects. I was one of his guest instructors in Southern Ohio going on thirty years ago since I am an Ohio attorney and his audience was mainly Ohio residents.

    John Farnham, Proctor and the guy who goes by SOB (Sheriff of Baghdad) are others I have heard good things about
     
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    you aren't ever going to convince them since their real goal is not crime control or increasing public safety. They only spew that excuse in order to serve as a facade to hide their real motivations-to harass and impede legal gun ownership for political reasons
     
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    The purpose of such armaments is to discourage the escalation of aggression by foreign nations.

    Which would ultimately do nothing. It has been proven conclusively that the majority of firearms acquired by convicted felons, are done through friends and acquaintances who do not care about the fact that they are violating federal law by knowingly supplying firearms to prohibited individuals.
     
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    The firearm is registered to the initial purchaser for a period of twenty years. That is how long a federally licensed firearms dealer is required to maintain each background check form, so that they may be searched by the ATF at any time.

    Beyond such, nationwide registration is a physical impossibility so long as polymer-framed firearms, such as the Glock series of pistol, remains popular with private owners. The serial number is located on a small metal plate, and is easily removed by simply filing away the polymer surrounding it. Once this is done it becomes physically impossible to ever trace the firearm to the last known owner again, as there is nothing left to trace.
     
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    Even when it is well documented, it still ultimately leads to nothing of any significance.

    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20170414/news/170419171/

    A Mount Prospect woman pleaded guilty to selling guns illegally and was sentenced to probation.


    Simone Mousheh, 23, pleaded guilty Thursday to the illegal transfer of firearms in exchange for 12 months probation and 15 days in the Cook County sheriff's work alternative program, according to court records. S.W.A.P. allows judges to sentence nonviolent offenders to manual labor in lieu of jail time.


    She was also ordered to pay $679 in fines.


    According to published reports, Mousheh purchased a .40-caliber gun legally then reported it stolen. Police recovered the gun from a Chicago juvenile.


    During a six-month period, authorities said, Mousheh purchased four weapons for $600 each and sold two to a Hoffman Estates man with Chicago gang ties.


    This happened in the state of Illinois, where everyone who legally owns a firearm is required to possess a valid firearm owners identification card at all times issued by the state of Illinois. This means there was a permanent record of each and every firearm that she trafficked, and yet she did it anyway. And yet despite this fact, she was given little more than one year of probation, because the state of Illinois deemed this sufficient for the crimes that were committed.
     
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    When a licensed firearms owner in the state of New York dies, the family does not get to keep the firearms of the deceased, they are confiscated by the police, because only the individual who was licensed was allowed to own them. If the firearm is not surrendered it is illegally possessed, and acquisition of a handgun ownership permit is more often an exercise in futility, as they are rarely issued in a timely manner.
     
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    Not unable, unwilling
     
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    Gee, I don't know. Look up "Jalita Johnson" or "Dontray Mills" and see if criminal justice cares about straw purchasers.

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    The Omaha police union and Omaha’s police chief expressed their opposition to the sentence given to the buyer of the gun used to kill Omaha Police Officer Kerrie Orozco.

    A federal judge in Atlanta on Monday sentenced Jalita Johnson, 26, to one year of probation for lying when she bought the gun in April. Johnson bought the Glock semi-automatic handgun, plus a 50-round drum magazine and ammunition, from a pawnshop in Jonesboro, Georgia.

    Johnson replied “yes” to a question on a form asking whether she was the actual buyer of the gun.


    Prosecutors said Johnson’s boyfriend, Marcus Wheeler, a felon, gave her money and told her what to buy.

    Wheeler, 26, fatally shot Orozco on May 20 when he opened fire on officers trying to arrest him.

    He fired nine rounds from the handgun and struck Orozco once. Wheeler was killed when Sgt. Jeff Kopietz returned fire."



    http://www.omaha.com/news/crime/pol...cle_dcd60ace-8716-5651-9125-cb297998694e.html
     
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    Cite, please.
     
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    post #15
     
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    It's not impossible. A criminal may be willing to reveal who he bought the weapon from in exchange for a shorter sentence. You're still taking a risk by filing away the serial number.
     
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    But they can claim ignorance. If background checks were universal then it would be easier to prosecute and convict these people. They would be guilty for simply transferring a firearm to a felon (whether they knew about the felon's background or not). It would be their responsibility to find out before completing the sale.
     
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    The risks posed by motor vehicles are more tolerable since they serve a useful purpose in modern day society.
     

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