Gun-related violent crime: Have the Democrats/liberals ever suggested...

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  1. FreshAir

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    that is a lousy argument to defend citizens walking down the streets with ar-15's
     
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    I am referring to the dictionary definition

    legal definitions vary by jurisdictions, but we both know the guns we are referring too regardless

    the problem is pro-ar-15 people trying to pretend they don't know what people are talking about to try and cloud the discussion
     
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    Which is irrelevant.

    The legal definition is a federal definition. It applies in all jurisdictions.
     
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    nope, the dictionary definition is not irrelevant, this is every day speech, we are not in a court of law, thus common dictionary definitions do apply
     
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    No they don’t, as we are discussing laws which would ban certain types of firearms. The constitution precludes that.
     
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    you may not want to go by the dictionary definitions and deny they are relevant, that is your problem, not mine
     
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    Dictionary definitions have no relevance to legal definitions. We are talking about laws banning certain firearms, which are legal definitions.
     
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    the English definition of words is always relevant in a discussion in the English language

    for example, in the eyes of the law, Christmas is not a religious holiday, it is a secular federal holiday, but we both know both can be true

    http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1999/12/07/loc_judge_invokes_santa.html

    "
    Christmas has become so secular that the government does not violate the Constitution by declaring it a federal legal holiday, a federal judge ruled Monday.

    "no reasonable person would see the federal holiday as an endorsement of Christianity"
    "
     
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    Not when discussing legal definitions as they pertain to law.
     
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    you were wrong, just admit it, lol
     
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    Uh, the legal definition of assault rifle is quite clear. We are discussing laws to ban assault rifles. The only definition that is relevant is the legal one. I am of course correct in everything I’ve stated in this thread.
     
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    I'm arguing for taking the guns the police off the street. Guns kill people, and the police have guns, which are designed for killing. Which means that guns kill. So we need to take them away from police.
     
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    Simply because a dictionary dishonestly changes a definition for political reasons, does not mean the definition is correct.
     

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