Guns in Nagaland (India)

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A little bit of international ethnic world news for this section of the forum, what's going on in a tiny remote corner of India.

    Nagaland is a part of India in the country's more remote Northeast, with a different ethnicity from the rest of India.
    Unlike in the rest of India, in Nagaland they have a strong gun culture. This is causing frictions with the Indian government.

    Interesting article below
    https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2...rs-militant-group-on-armed-wedding-photo.html

    A couple were arrested by Indian authorities because they posed with assault rifles in their wedding picture, which was taken at a private family event. Apparently the man's father had a legal permit for the two guns. The couple were simply posing with the guns in their hands for the picture. These type of gun pictures at weddings are not uncommon in Nagaland. But the couple was arrested just because Indian authorities saw the picture of them holding the guns.


    This type of thing is happening in parts of the US too. Judges are signing off on search warrants, and in some cases there are even arrests, just because someone posts an unwise picture on Facebook.
    And in some cases the picture only makes it appear they broke the law, when they actually didn't.
     
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    A side note, in countries with strong anti gun laws, clandestine machine shops turn out many untracable "ghost" guns. A gun is not terribly difficult to fabricate. Most underground machine shops make sub machine guns, hydraulic tubing for the barrel, folded sheet metal for the magazine and receiver. See Phillip Lutey "the home gunsmith" and the "liberator" .45 single shot derringers we air dropped over nazi occupied territory in WW2.
     
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    I assume you're relying on people not bothering to follow the link since your description of the incident is a complete misrepresentation of what the article actually says.

    It wasn't just some random couple here, the groom was the son of a separatist insurgent group who have apparently signed a peace deal with the national government which could well include limitations on what weapons they should have. There is clearly a long history here and the action against the couple could still be totally inappropriate but regardless, the story presented in the link isn't anything like the one you're trying to spin it in to.
     
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  4. kazenatsu

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    Most of these guns are from frequent past wars in the Southeast Asian region, many were made in the Soviet Union and US. Probably most of the guns get smuggled through the "Golden Triangle" (a remote region in Northern Myanmar straddling the border with Thailand and Laos, has a lot of opium production and local corruption). Starting in the early 1940s, the British sent a lot of guns into the region to try to route the Japanese invasion doing WW2, then there was the Vietnam war, and then there were insurrections and civil wars in many of these countries, with regimes and rebel factions importing guns, some of them at this time supplied by Communist China (up until 1979).
    Many ethnic groups in remote provinces in Myanmar resent the country's government (with occasionally some rare sporadic actual fighting), so the central government in Myanmar does not really have full control on the ground in some parts of the country. They are not too concerned as long as these outlying areas are not opposing the central government (which borders on being a regime, a little bit of a complicated situation these days). There was a recent story of the Chinese Army having to come in to deal with some drug smuggling criminal organization who had slaughtered a group of Chinese citizens, because Myanmar was not going to do anything about it.
    Nagaland borders on the Myanmar border.

    To be fair, many of these Naga communities argue that they are in sparsely populated remote areas and need guns to be able to protect themselves, and there is at least some truth to this argument. People in other parts of India would never be granted these gun permits. A special exception is made for Nagaland and surrounding areas.
    Unlike in the rest of India, over 90% of Nagaland's population is Christian, and they have strong communities and tend to deal with problems locally themselves.

    There's an article about Chinese illegal gun exports here:
    https://jamestown.org/program/mapping-chinas-small-arms-trade-chinas-illicit-domestic-gun-trade/
     
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    Worse, several states have enacted 'red flag' laws where such a picture - especially of, say a minor - can be taken to the authorities as probable cause of immediate danger to said minor, to have the firearms forcibly removed. No charges, no trial.

    The gun owner must then prove to the state that the minors are not in any danger to get his guns back.

    Red flag laws are an anti-gun leftists' wettest dream.
     

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