Guns owners chase and kill black man who was jogging

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr Magoo could see he runs toward the truck it is not chasing him.

    Totally he never did any of that.

    Nope, I can order anyone to stop, if they don't I can continue to follow them while communicating with 911.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read the entire thread, it was alleged he was being chased, had that been true running in front of the truck would have gotten him run over, since he didn't get run over, the claim they where chasing him is a lie.

    Combine that with his attitude and temper, the person with the shotgun was well within his right to fight back and defend himself.

    He didn't need to try to steal the shotgun, in fact that was a terminally stupid thing to do, he could have just kept on walking while calling 911.
     
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    again, THEY ADMITTED THEY WERE TRYING TO DETAIN HIM, AND HAD BLOCKED HIS PATH SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY.


    he is on video doing that.


    but what they did, as seen on the video and confirmed by their own statements, was attempt to detain arbery, while brandishing firearms. That is illegal, as they had zero authority to detain him. It's why they are in jail.
     
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    Your premise that because he didn't get run over that in turn means he wasn't being chased is beyond laughable.
     
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    MCMICHAELS ADMITTED THEY WERE CHASING HIM, WITH FIREARMS.
    The aggressor can not claim self defense. McMichaels was the aggressor, as they were attempting to illegally detain arbery, while brandishing firearms. It's why they are in jail on charges of murder and aggravated assault.
    his path was barred by a truck, and a man in the street with a gun.
     
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    Which is not illegal in GA.

    It has already been explained to you they where not brandishing firearms per GA law, are you having problems reading that statute or do you just wish to ignore it because it doesn't support your narrative?
     
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    yes it is, which is why they are in jail. They were attempting to make a citizens arrest, and they had no authority to do so, as they did not witness a crime first hand.



    your explanation does not make GA law go away. They were brandishing firearms, per GA statute. It's why they are in jail, charged with murder and aggravated assault.
     
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    The video clearly shows him running toward a stopped truck which he cross's in front of, therefore it is clearly in evidence he was heading into a confrontation.

    Your conflating of my response to two wrongs posted by others is at best twisting the facts like a pretzel.
     
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    Incorrect again, post a GA statute prohibiting such.

    That's a flat out lie, repost the statute and explain where in it is stated brandishing is simple possession and open carry.
     
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    https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-17/chapter-4/article-4/17-4-60/

    They did not witness a crime firsthand, nor was a felony committed giving them probable cause to detain him.

    the video shows them pointing the shotgun at arbery. Open carry does not include pointing or aiming a weapon at someone. that is brandishing, and illegal. It's why they are in jail.
     
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    Ah...so you believe the two armed men in the truck just happened to be stopped where Arbery was jogging? Just all a coincidence? The two a holes didn't track down Arbery?
     
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    They never tried to detain him, try another lie.

    False again, the video clearly shows Arbery holding the barrel of the shotgun trying to take it away from the person holding it, if it ended up pointed at him it was because the person holding it finally was get it into a position to shoot Arbery, which is lawful self defense at that point.
     
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    None of which is illegal.
     
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    is English your second language? I've corrected you on this a dozen times. THEY ADMITTED THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO DETAIN HIM.



    [FQUOTE]False again, the video clearly shows Arbery holding the barrel of the shotgun trying to take it away from the person holding it, if it ended up pointed at him it was because the person holding it finally was get it into a position to shoot Arbery, which is lawful self defense at that point.[/QUOTE]
    nope. The video clearly shows them blocking his path, brandishing firearms, which is confirmed by McMichaels himself in his statement to the police. It's why they are in jail.
     
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    all of which is illegal, as you've been shown.
     
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    I noticed you didn't answer my questions. We both know why :D
     
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    What question did you ask that I didn't answer?
     
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    All of them. Saying "none of which is illegal" doesn't specifically answer the questions below. If you avoid answering the questions below again I'll take that as your admitting you have no argument.

    Ah...so you believe the two armed men in the truck just happened to be stopped where Arbery was jogging?
    Just all a coincidence?
    The two a holes didn't track down Arbery?
     
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    Of course Well Bonded knows the McMichaels deliberately hunted down Arbery.
     
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    Oh of course. It's still fun to watch him dodge the questions though
     
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    I doubt they hunted anyone down, that's a way over the top assumption of what they did.
     
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    So far you haven't posted any questions I have not answered, either you asked them or are lying about it, which is it?
     
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    So you believe they just happened to be where Arbery was jogging just minding their own business and out of the blue Arbery attacked them? Is that what you believe?
     
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    Are you kidding me? You haven't answered any of those questions. If you did, you'd show me the answers. So, I'll take your avoidance as you admitting you are wrong about everything you've said.
     
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    No, you have never asked any questions that I have not answers, if that is not true then point our where I failed to do so.

    I cannot show you answers, when I have no idea of the questions that you are alleging I failed to answer.

    So either put up or shut up.
     

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