HAB Theory and getting Conservatives to worry about climate change!

oops sorry dude, i was reading your post and quoted it on accident. My bad

 

Not a problem, stuff happens

 

Some good data on this:

" Geologists still are not sure what causes the planet's magnetic field to flip direction. Earth's iron core acts like a giant magnet and generates the magnetic field that envelops the planet. This helps protect against blasts of radiation that erupt from the sun and sometimes hurtle toward Earth. A weakening magnetic field could interrupt power grids and radio communication, and douse the planet in unusually high levels of radiation.

While the ESA satellite studied the magnetic field from above, Renne and a team of researchers studied it from below. The researchers dug through ancient lake sediments exposed at the base of the Apennine Mountains in Italy. Ash layers from long-ago volcanic eruptions are mixed into the sediment. The ash is made of magnetically sensitive minerals that hold traces of Earth's magnetic field lines, and the researchers were able to measure the direction the field was pointing.

Renne and colleagues then used a technique called argon-argon dating — which works because radioactive potassium-40 decays into argon-40 at a known rate — to determine the age of the rock sediment. The layers built up over a 10,000-year period, and the researchers could pinpoint where the poles flipped in the rock layers. The last flip happened around 786,000 years ago.

Sudden swap

The sediment layers also showed the magnetic field was unstable for about 6,000 years before the abrupt flip-flop. The period of instability included two low points in the field's strength, each of which lasted about 2,000 years.

Geologists don't know where the magnetic field is now in that reversal timescale or if this flip will even follow the same pattern as the last. The bottom line is that no one is sure when it's coming.

"We don't really know whether the next reversal is going to resemble the last one, so it's impossible to say whether we're just seeing the first of possibly several excursions (slight movements), or a true reversal,"
http://www.livescience.com/48333-magnetic-field-flip-within-100-years.html


Looks like we have a couple thousand years to think about it.

 

That certainly sounds good!

And for the moment this helps to explain why all that melting that has occurred on Greenland and the world's glaciers has not yet resulted in significant rise in ocean levels.

It seems to me that the amount of H2O being added to the central region of Antarctica has so far offset the melting.


http://www.dw.de/greenland-ice-melting-at-record-speed/a-17869513

 

From some of what I have read of the paranormal it seems that duplicates are made of each of us as a new time line is created that we lived in.

It seems that the Creator wants many versions of us. Some of the other versions of you and I could be centuries or even millennia older than we are and would have a much different view of what is happening in our lives.

Near death experiencer Gary Plumley mentions meeting one of his guides......and the guide was himself..... I assume an older version of himself from a previous time line.

One of the most comprehensive explanations that I have ever read of branching time was chapter 5 of Christian Andreason's NDE account.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

I actually am not a doomsdayer at all and believe that humanity comes together to organize a vastly different, and better economy than we have now.

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

 

So, do you think one has to have a NDE to experience these things or to be able to understand them? What about meditation, the emptying of ones mind, the stillness and accepting, the elimination and joining. Can other lives of oneself actually talk to you or maybe even ancestors. Can the knowledge and wisdom of the ancients be passed from those who existed many thousands of years ago or perhaps even in another dimension or world, universe onto you?

Perhaps all things are possible and all things are impermanent at the same time.

 

I have had very limited success in applying this myself but I do believe that the duplication of the near death experience level of consciousness can be created through extreme meditation.

http://www.thomastwin.com/10 A Background to Silence.html

 

Most interesting site there on HAB theory.

I found the study of the Antikythera mechanism fascinating and the most in depth I'd seen.

http://www.habtheory.com/1/antikythera.php

The "capsizing" theories I'm unsure of. They diverge from other oral histories and geologic data that seems fairly consistent. Perhaps time frames are so widely inconsistent within the earths geologic, anthropological origins that conceptualization is not likely.

The factor of "precedence" related to centrifugal force is represented however, which could be very early in humanity existence on this planet, and there is the evidence of ancient unknown civilizations which are completely confounding to modern anthropology and archeology.

Something tells me the key is in our genetic memory.

 

Yes.... we are going to be astonished by what our genetic code reveals as quantum processing becomes more advanced.

I read "Worlds in Collision" by Immanuel Velikovsky back during the 1990's. His ideas had a large effect on his friend Dr. Albert Einstein!

Christopher.... I think that you would love the meeting that near death experiencer Christian Andreason had with Dr. Einstein during his out of the body experience.

There it is in post #45......
http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...chard-dawkins-ph-d-aliens-seeded-earth-5.html
Richard Dawkins: Aliens Seeded Earth?

 

As far as I'm concerned, the ultimate quantum processor is our mind, we justifiably must get back to using it to move knowledge from our genes into cognition.

 

Yes..... our minds......
are connected to something that is beyond
anything that humanity has invented so far.....

 

I sure found these illustrations encouraging.

It seems like the fear of magnetic polar shift could be somewhat exaggerated?

http://earthsky.org/earth/if-you-made-a-sphere-of-all-earths-water-how-big-would-it-be


If you made a sphere of all Earth’s water, how big would it be?

 

Einstein was not yet aware of Tectonic Plate Theory.

Magnetic polar shifts take place on average about every 750,000 years The Earth is due for such a shift. There are no extinction events caused by such shifts.

At most, it would wreck havoc with technology, but nothing more.

 

Interesting proportion. Creates an appreciation for the scale we exist on.

 

Polar shifts happen. Has nothing to do with climate change. You can tax Americans all you want and you're not going to have any effect. Climate Change, formally known as Global Warming, is a scam meant to rob the American people of their wealth. China isn't worried about it. We shouldn't worry either.

 

I believe that it can happen again, since REAL SCIENCE proves that it has happened before.

REAL SCIENCE also proves that the earths climate has been unstable over its history and has changed 1,000's of times and will continue to change with or without mans influence.

 

Einstein later convince Hapgood that ice could not account for a shift so he changed his hypothesis to something under the crust.

 

But.... the sheer amount of ice that is being added to the central part of
Antarctica at this time......gives us an idea of how serious ocean level rise eventually could be
if...... (and I believe the more accurate word is when)....... the amount of
cracking and sliding of ice on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet begins to
shift the balance so that rapid ocean level rise begins.

A carbon tax....... or cap and trade system..... will NOT work fast enough
to save coastal communities from rising ocean levels......
but large scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture.....
and restoring the water table in areas where it is being lower by increased demand....
that might just actually be far more economical than building sea walls, dikes or
levees?

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But.... the sheer amount of ice that is being added to the central part of
Antarctica at this time......gives us an idea of how serious ocean level rise eventually could be
if...... (and I believe the more accurate word is when)....... the amount of
cracking and sliding of ice on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet begins to
shift the balance so that rapid ocean level rise begins.

A carbon tax....... or cap and trade system..... will NOT work fast enough
to save coastal communities from rising ocean levels......
but large scale desalination of ocean water for agriculture.....
and restoring the water table in areas where it is being lower by increased demand....
that might just actually be far more economical than building sea walls, dikes or
levees?

 

Immanuel Velikovsky wrote that this had taken place 171 times in earth's history......
if I remember correctly.

 

Interesting!

What is happening under the crust could certainly be an important part of the whole formula as well.

 

Here is an idea that we desperately need to consider very seriously over the coming months and years.

If AboveAlpha is correct that there are 4.3 Trillion USA Petro - Dollars out there floating around then we need to come up with a method of investing them wisely so that they do not hit the markets too fast and devalue the dollar.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/

 

move the cities. Cheaper in the long run.

 

I would be in favor of a polar shift if it will put Arkansas in the tropical zone.

 

You could be correct......
I honestly don't know but every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the
water table of a nation with lots of desert is indeed a win - win - win - win scenario for about 99% of
us.

Lawyers with a background in the environmental sciences would tend to prefer a carbon tax
or cap and trade system of some type because they would likely have became very rich off
of it.

I am quite impressed by the results of this poll that I began:


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rleans-and-florida-from-rising-oceans.300460/

Is turning deserts green a good response to climate change?

1. 
   No, only a carbon tax of some form will stop climate change!
   2 vote(s)
   6.3%
2. *
   Yes, plants are both a carbon as well as a water sink!
   13 vote(s)
   40.6%
3. 
   No, we should never engage in geo-engineering of any form or shape, EVER!!!
   6 vote(s)
   18.8%
4. *
   Yes, with one billion hungry, how can we go wrong by producing more food?
   16 vote(s)
   50.0%

Multiple votes are allowed.