Haitian migrants getting ‘false information’ as they try to enter U.S.

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dear GOP lawmakers, please STOP telling everyone the border is open and everyone is allowed it. You know it is not true, and whether you realize it or not, this fake message is exactly the reason which is fueling the surge at the border. Can you not realize your language is encouraging people to make the journey here? You KNOW the border is not open and that 1.5 million people have already been deported, so why do you keep spreading the fake news? Scoring political points cannot take priority over issues like this.

    Haitian migrants getting ‘false information’ as they try to enter U.S.

    Mass expulsion from Texas border underway
    https://www.local10.com/news/politi...ADqmGhOrFq0TpvQj3G-6T0tX0U3utTCtJCPNkwS8K2LJY
    “We are very concerned that Haitians who are taking this irregular migration path are receiving false information that the border is open, or that temporary protected status is available,” said Mayorkas, who arrived Monday for a firsthand look at the situation. “I want to make sure that it is known that this is not the way to come to the United States. That is false information.”
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what else sends a message of open borders? Canceling wall construction
     
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    Trying to pin this on the GOP is hilarious.

    When Republicans were last in charge, border crossings fell to the lowest numbers in 50 years.

    Democrats take over, and border crossings are at historical highs.

    And it's the GOP's fault.

    Utterly hilarious.

    Like children trying to blame the mess they made on their stuffed animals.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah, the border is guarded, which is why we have record number of apprehensions and deportations. Nothing sends the message more clearly than our politicians actually saying it in the media, and then repeating it on daily bases.
     
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    There you have it "GOP", just start shouting the borders' closed and everybody headed there will turn tail and haul ass back home! Why, we can put it out in headlines in Spanish and Creole newspapers, post a few "Closed for Business" signs in same along the Rio Grande, and that's all she wrote for our border crisis....simplicity itself! :rolleyes: As for the "1.5 million already deported", is that in years, or DECADES? :rolleyes:
     
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    And towns have police departments. I guess nobody needs to lock their doors either? I love liberal logic. It’s so awesome
     
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    So, so hilarious.

    The Democrat's created a massive immigration crisis, and you're giving them pats on the back for spending enormous amounts of taxpayer money as they scramble to try and fix their own disaster?

    Too funny.
     
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    You can blame anyone you want for GOP parroting that the border is open.

    Yes, that is when they started sending the message that the border is open.

    Why do you think the people are not trying to sneak in, but walking across openly? Because they were told the border is open. They were told then can some and stay.

    This is not my theory, its what the migrants are saying. They thought the border is open, and the only people making that claim are GOP lawmakers. Did they not understand their words have consequences?
     
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    You'd better place an emoji after your post to signify that you're being sarcastic...I hope you don't think liberal logic is awesome.:roll:
     
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    Keep going.

    This childlike refusal to take responsibility for the mess you made is very amusing.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not liberal, and nor did I say anything about locking doors. I have a fence, and according to the populist / Alt-Right logic I don't need to lock my doors. I love Alt-Right logic. It’s so awesome.

    Ok. Heh-heh-heh.
     
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    Oh, now it MY fault. All righty then. The Alt-Right it on fire this morning.
     
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    I'll bet if you try real hard, and twist logic up like a pretzel more, you can blame it on Trump.

    Give that a try for our amusement.
     
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    You know what, if both sides of the aisle were saying the same thing, it WOULD have an impact, but as long as out officials go in font of TV cameras to tell the world that our borders are open, people will continue to come. The partisan sabotage needs to end.

    The folks from Haiti say they heard the border is open, and that message came from our politicians.

    Tell me, - do you think its good immigration policy to tell people the border is open? How could that possibly help?

    Why? Is he also saying the border is open?

    I don't have to name names, because anyone who is lying about the border being open is contributing to the problem.
     
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    You didn't vote for Team Joe?
     
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    I am a 3rd party voter, but going forward I probably wont vote at all given the fact that people accept results only if they win. The whole system is a joke. I dont know why anyone still wants to be a party loyalist, but clearly its still hip as we can see form your posts.
     
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    You should've voted for Trump. Border crossings fell to 50-year lows under Trump.
     
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    The wall is a waste of money. It was just a way for Trump to boost his ratings among those that don't like non-Americans and get his friend to set up a fake fundraiser to take their $.

    People know how to climb walls. Remember they did at the Capitol riot?
     
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    I don't vote for idiots. Besides, he said illegal immigration was worse under his tern than ever before. Did he lie? No one knows what the truth is since he lied pretty much every time he opened his mouth.
     
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    Okay, let's take a look at this-

    gee, I wonder where they got that idea? Must be those darned dirty 'publicans spreading rumors about pending deportation moratoriums.

    Democratic lawmakers urge Biden administration to halt deportations- CNN
    https://www.cnn.com › politics › haiti-deportations

    4 days ago — More than 50 Democratic lawmakers urged the Biden administration Friday to halt deportations to Haiti as nearly 10000 migrants have ...

    You reckon they're Republicans?

    Because it's the Republicans that are fueling the hopes of the immigrants, right?
     
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    Perhaps we should define the meaning of open border. The law states that it is illegal to enter the U.S. anywhere other than through a port of entry. If you allow people to enter anyplace they wish then that is an open border. I welcome your definition. What has surged the illegal immigration on the Texas border is an open border.
     
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    There are no moratoriums. The Republicans are the only people saying the border is open. As a matter of fact US extended Title 8 expedited deportations in August. Title 8 expulsions alone add up to nearly 1 million this year.

    Do you really think its helpful to tell people the border is open? Serious question.
     
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    Yes. It's very helpful to let Americans know what Democrats have done to the border.
     
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    Do you thinks it's a good idea to let people know that the lots of Democrats are fighting for deportation moratoriums?
     
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    Open border = An open border is a border that enables free movement of people (and often of goods) between jurisdictions with few or no restrictions on movement.

    Its very simple, - we would not have 1.5 million people sent back if the border was open. We would not be in process of flying people back to Haiti if the border was open. The people from Haiti are coming openly in full view because they thought the border was open. Then they were detained, and now they are sent back.

    Do you think its helpful to tell people the border is open? Serious question.

    Typically at an open border you only see a sign telling you are entering another country. This is an open border between two EU nations. There is no immigration check, - you don't even have to slow down.

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    US - Mexico border. Everyone is screened and entry documents are demanded, and cars are searched. This is an example of a border which is NOT open.

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