HAITIAN PRESIDENT ASSASSINATED TODAY

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    Haitian President Jovenel Moise was assassinated and his wife wounded by gunmen early today. Since I have the computer skills of a drunken lemur, perhaps a more computer savvy member can post a news link and we can get to commenting on it.
     
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    While I watching the loading thing, go round.....I thought....."well this is not good"

    This is never good, in today's climate? Start of WW3?...
    One never knows, now does one ?
     
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    I'd like to get Michael Flynn's opinion on this, specifically as to why it can't happen here.
     
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    I download and download and they disappear into some black hole in the hard drive.....gotta get one of my young nieces over to educate me. As for Moise he's been ruling by decree for over a year since they failed to hold elections. Haiti has been a train wreck since they threw French out and pretty much do as they please without much of the world caring....although it should interesting how the Biden Administration reacts and responds (if at all).
     
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    Also make note that reports say some of the attackers spoke Spanish... the "official" language of Haiti is French, and 95% of the population speak Haitian Creole....is this a "false flag" on the part of the assassination plotters to point a finger at the Dominican Republic?
     
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    We're they DEA agents:
     
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    Wonder what he had on the Clintons.
     
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    I can't imagine what the Haitians could possibly be "exporting" that would amount to a drop in the ocean compared to the Mexican cartels output. Now to see if "interim" Prime Minister Claude Joseph, like Moise, forgoes elections and stays on as the new strongman....at least until HE steps on the wrong toes.
     
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    Well they did pocket a tidy sum with their penny to a dollar "earthquake aid". ;)
     
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    The assassination of the Haitian President will not start WWIII.

    It'll take the assassination of the band Franz Ferdinand.
     
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    I have been trying to understand this since @joesnagg first posted.

    From your article:

    Haiti's chief of police on Wednesday night said that four suspected killers were fatally shot by police and two others were arrested.

    Three police officers who were taken hostage were freed, Léon Charles said.

    The “presumed assassins” have been arrested, Haiti’s Communications Secretary Frantz Exantus said, without providing additional details about the slaying or saying how many suspects had been arrested.




    I don't understand it at all.

    Do they not have security for their President? How was it possible for any of them to get inside his house?

    This happened overnight but someone called the police? Who?

    How were the cops taken hostage and why would the four suspects still be there when the cops arrived?

    How did all four suspects get killed at the scene?

    Something is missing.
     
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    The shocking assassination of Haiti’s president means U.S. must get off the sidelines and act
    https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article252617453.html

    The editorial board from the Miami Herald believes that the US needs to take action in Haiti.

    Op ed piece, that basically states the US needs to do something, but offers nothing of substance of what that would consist of.

    Seems a bit of stretch to me. Hell, there are probably some folks that might think the assassination itself was the US getting off the sidelines and taking action in Haiti.

    Why is it that her sister nation on that island, the DR, has none of the level of poverty and disfunction that Haiti has?

    What is it that the US should do for Haiti? Send in a team of diplomats from Louisiana to explain to them how to run their country? Louisiana is the only state with folks that speak creole and even there it is more than likely a dying language.

    Maybe Quebec or France should step up to the plate, since that is the other language used in Haiti.

    We don't even do right by Puerto Rico, and we're supposed to do right by Haiti?

    Pfffttt...
     
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    Good question about the Dominican Republic functioning and Haiti being a perpetual train wreck, I have my thoughts but I'm going keep them to myself. Don't think Quebec would touch it and the French probably thank God they were booted out on 1804. As far as America's concerned unless we occupy it and run a "protectorate" they'll stay in the ditch they seem to favor. At this point in my life I've come to the conclusion that there's SOME places on this earth that attempting to "plant" democracy is as futile as attempting to plant rice on a rock, it ain't NEVER gonna happen.
     
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    Haiti has long been a premier transshipment point for drug smuggling from South America. Whether cartels or rogue DEA agents vying for control, it's likely drug smuggling played some role in the cause of his death.
     
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    I suspect they were mercenaries/assassins. Could be anyone (who has money, of course) that hired them.
     
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    You caught that, eh? I’d hate to be on the other end of that barrage.
     
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    U.S. citizen among 6 arrested in connection with Haitian president's assassination, senior Haitian official says

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0.HOnI-E_TSHEq3zsxj-7Zed5mMBWSlATYVQxsbXrKOHE

    "James Solages, a U.S. citizen of Haitian descent, is one of the six people arrested so far in the killing Wednesday of President Jovenel Moïse, according to Mathias Pierre, Haiti’s minister of elections and interparty relations. At least one other detainee is also believed to be a Haitian American, Pierre said. Four other suspects have been killed, authorities have said."
     
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    Haiti is basically a failed state.

    So similar to Africa...
    Then one might dare to ask "why?"
     
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    From the NY Times:

    The assassination of Mr. Moïse is the culmination of years of instability in the country, which has long been seized by lawlessness and violence. Haiti, once a slave colony notorious for the brutality of its masters, won independence from France after slaves revolted and defeated Napoleon Bonaparte’s forces in 1803. But in the two centuries since, Haiti has struggled to emerge from cycles of dictatorships and coups that have kept the country impoverished and struggling to deliver basic services to many of its people.
    from NPR:

    Haiti was already in crisis before its president's assassination, according to experts.

    Political instability, the lasting effects of a devastating earthquake and a cholera epidemic, foreign political meddling, and gang violence have all contributed to serious instability in the country.

    "You have this situation where the institutions are not working, where the economy is stagnated ... the politics has been extremely volatile. The current government has been challenged by the population. There have been massive accusations of corruption," Robert Fatton, an expert on Haitian politics at the University of Virginia, told NPR. "So you name it, in terms of instability and institutional decay, you have it at the moment in Haiti."​
     
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    It's being reported that his wife passed away.
     
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    Well now, wonder to what dark recesses in the "intelligence" community that may lead?
     

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