Halsey says good riddance to concertgoers leaving show during abortion rights speech

LINK: Halsey's abortion rights remarks prompt fans to leave concert - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

She is certainly welcome to alienate her fans base. And certainly welcome to her opinion. Only reason I'm posting this is to show that despite Libs portrayal....RvW being overturned is not universally considered a bad thing. And claiming that this "hands this election to Dems" isn't near as a sure thing as they make out.

 

most Americans think overturning RvW was a bad thing

good for Halsey

 

If we logically weigh that decision and the effects of it, there are no positive benefits. RvW was actually more of a clarification of rules than something settling an issue.
RvW's only effect was to say states could not prohibit abortion. States still regulated it in every other way. RvW established the one consistent element of abortion law. Overturning it allowed every state to be unlimited in their regulation- and that would not be a good thing on any issue. This means that what is legal in one state can be criminal in the state beside it... making "crime" out of one person making a choice that offends someone else's moral standard. Not their life, just their right to impose their personal standard on others in regards to the personal decisions of those people, which have zero effect on the lives of the morally offended, who also have no impact from or interest in the consequences of what they impose.

Thus, the overturning of RvW only turned up the heat and fueled the desire of some to control the lives of others.

Abortion will continue as it always has. The righteous have gained a new authority to assault those they believe they are superior to. This is somewhat like having a kind of riot in your house- and you telling your kids they must just fight it out for themselves, because you as the role model and chief regulator don't want to take a stand.

It's not pro-abortion or anti-abortion... The essence is the right to dictate morality to others when you have absolutely no skin in the game. Regardless of the issue, that is a wrong move.

 

No they do not.

 

the right is saying "my body, my choice" is not a thing, the government has full control over your body

 

Celebrities are idiots. These are the same folks who think you can eat anything Uber Eats brings.



Complete morons.

 

Not mine, and I won't allow it. .
If you need to get their permission to take a dump, that's a personal problem that's yours alone.

 

Welcome to your new covid vaccine requirements.

That much of the left was fully beating the drum for

 

The little I know about her, I like Halsey.

I think overturning R v. W was a bad thing for the country because it has created even more acrimony in these weird times, and served no valid purpose. It just injected more religious zeal into the mess, whether intended or not.

 

I probably know about 5 songs total from the past 10 years (don't listen to much of anything other than 60s-80s), but one of my favorites in recent years is this

 

Who?

 

Did somebody say that overturning RvW was "universally a bad thing"? I don't recall reading that.

On the surface, the statement doesn't make sense. It wouldn't have been overturned if it was "universally a bad thing". Clearly, those SCOTUS members and others think it's a good thing.

And, I think it's just silly for people that rely on their fan base to alienate them but she has Freedom of Speech just like everybody else. They have freedom to walk out. That's how it's supposed to work.

 

She said this is about reproductive rights. Abortion has nothing to do with reproduction, it’s the exact opposite. Where does the left come up with all these fancy phrases?

 

over 70% of the american population supports the right to an abortion.

 

Because that also includes the right to NOT reproduce.

Sex does not always have to include the possibility of pro creation, contrary to the American Talibans belifs.. Sex can be purely 100% about enjoyment and nothing more.

 

this verdict says otherwise

 

Sorry no the growing consensus before Roe was to permit abortion in the case of Rape incest and if the perspective mother's life was in danger.

All laws are by nature and an imposition of a moral code.

 

exactly, next time they will be require, line up, the SC says you no longer get to decide

 

And 90% believes that there should be limits.

 

Just yesterday I threaded an article with a poll taken since then that says otherwise

 

Your imagination. The verdict throws what controls there are back to the states alone. That's abandonment, not control. We can't control drugs after a 60 year "war on drugs". We failed with prohibition. We hve never controlled abortion and never will- but some need to think that to call themselves "righteous". It's a lot of hassle, but the bottom line is illusion; it's not happening.

 

Laws are by nature? I agree nature makes some equivalents of laws, and all of them vastly exceed the man-made ones in long-term effectiveness. Our moral codes are only effective in communities with common values, and that is under attack big-time by the left. Laws made by men are always temporary and fickle, they change with the wind. Unfortunately we can't seem to get people to be rational and reasonable on the issue of abortion, we wind up with fanatics at opposite ends of the spectrum and no middle ground. I think the right answer will be middle ground, but we don't seem to have anyone there. Of course, anytime people go to the the extremes, the other side feels they must too- and both refuse to seek that middle ground.

 

anouther good one

 

the middle ground is let the women choose for herself, keep government out of it

 

fake polls