Hamas accepts Egypt deal. Netanyahu says NO.

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  1. WillReadmore

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    Run east. What other country in modern history warned the civilians to get out of an area where it was going to be bombed? Certainly not the US who thinks it can dictate how Israel fights its wars. Countries can learn from Israel.
     
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    Good on Israel! Burn Hamas to the ground. The only acceptable outcome is the full and utter destruction of Hamas.
     
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    But, Israel is losing.

    There are no areas cleared of Gaza's defensive forces.

    Those brigades are still fully armed.

    Israel has not achieved any of the goals it claimed

    Gaza has 2.2 million people. Israel has managed to slaughter about 40K.

    The policy of Zionism is running its course. And, the world will NEVER forget.
     
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    So the news is nothing happened. Thanks for the update.
     
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    East of Gaza would be Israel.

    That will be very difficult given the fact that they also have strong presence in West Bank, Lebanon, Qatar, Egypt, etc
     
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    No, this is actually serious.

    Biden has stepped forward to cut Israeli military aid and again tell Netanyahu not to invade Rafah. Also, he's increasing pressure to find a solution.

    University students made that the only real direction for Biden, as they brought to bear the principles upon which we stand as Americans, and demonstrated that they aren't going to be stopped in promoting that message. Plus, there is an election coming up!

    Netanyahu is in a tight spot. The IDF can't beat the armed defense of Gaza. Large sections of the populace in Israel are either disgusted or demand that Netanyahu get the hostages back. Hamas has accepted a serious offer. More slaughter is NOT going to help him politically - at home, in the world, or in history of Israel. The economy is slipping. Netanyahu has several other war fronts - Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Hezbollah (which is stronger than Gaza), the Houthis, who attack Israeli shipping, Jordan, - others?
     
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    Israel tried to go after the defensive forces of Gaza for 7 MONTHS.

    They lost.
     
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    Your own source says the details aren’t known yet there you go BSing about it being “serious”.

    Seen enough of your act to last me a lifetime. We get it. You really hate Israel and love Hamas and the Palestinians are useful fodder for you to pretend at being a humanitarian.

    Welcome to being what we are seeing from the America hating Students of college campuses. The only difference between you and them? They actually have the balls to put their faces on camera.
     
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    The fact is that BIBI is getting a lot of pressure from many nations and is not paying any heed . That is not doing him any favors.
     
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    Hamas wouldn't let them leave Gaza. Hamas would see it as a huge loss.
     
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    Israel won't allow them into Israel. Only Israeli citizens can get in.
     
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    Palestinians carrying white flags have been shot in the streets, and 'safe areas' have had bombs dropped on them repeatedly. They would have to be suicidal to run to the IDF.
     
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    Yup. It is amazing how Israeli officials cannot see how badly they have shot themselves in the foot. They are now seen as worse than Iran or North Korea in terms of humanitarian values almost globally. They have destroyed the reputation of the IDF, putting it on a similar standing as the Iranian Quds force in terms of spreading terror.

    If I was Israeli, I would be outraged at the dark path Netanyahu has taken Israel on. Jews around the world should be equally outraged that their religion has been taken hostage by these lunatics.
     
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    You, me - and a lot of other Israelis demonstrating in the streets of Tel Aviv.
     
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    Support for the government is solid in Israel.
    Hamas are hoping to be bailed out from generations of political foolishness and military incompetence. The Israelis are in no mood to oblige. Hamas are now cornered; their end is near.
     
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    Why the hell wouldn't a cease fire be on ISRAEL'S terms? Hamas is asking for it, not Israel. And Hamas' atrocious actions on 10/7 stopped the ceasefire they already had. This current ceasefire bid didn't include returning any hostages.

    If I were in charge of Israel, here is the only offer I would make: We will have a 3 day ceasefire IF, in the next 24 hours we receive every hostage alive and unharmed. During those 3 days, you can do whatever you want. You can regroup, you can use the time to whine to the rest of the world about how mistreated you are, you can have a big street party to celebrate still being alive. But if one rocket is fired into Israel during this time, we go in and finish you.
     
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    Oddly, you got a couple of people to agree with you. It didn't work on me though.
     
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    I wouldn't expect that it would be very easy to get you to see reason.
     
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    It is very easy. You just aren't reasonable.
     
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    May as well finish it now. Huh?
     
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    Right, what was I thinking? Wanting to end the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents obviously makes me some kind of extremist.
     
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    Yeah more or less. Since there likely isn't anymore hostages to return.
     
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