"Hamas is responsible. Hamas will pay." -- Benjamin Netanyahu

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  1. rammstein

    rammstein Member Past Donor

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    Well is seems the second part of this statement was correct concerning
    the abduction and murder of 3 Israeli young people.

    No doubt what this really turned out to be is a pretext to go in and
    work to break the recent agreement between Fatah and Hamas.

    Ultimately many lost their lives, their health, and their property.

    Truth is famously the first casualty of war, and the Israeli war on Gaza is no exception. Yesterday Jon Donnison of the BBC pulled the rug out from under the Israeli government’s pretext for the Gaza onslaught with a series of tweets about a conversation he’d had with Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld about the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in the West Bank in June.

    The boys were not killed by Hamas, Rosenfeld told Donnison, as he reported on Twitter:

    Read more here --

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/killed-turning-onslaught.html

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    Zionists refuse to believe in personal criminality when it comes to Gaza - They firmly believe that everything criminal down there is the result of a Hamas order. You know, the Palestinian-hive people...

    It was exactly the same ting with PLO. Zionists believe that no Palestinian can be rightly and personally pissed enough to commit a crime unless their government tells them so.
     
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    So are you saying that the words "Hamas will pay" caused Hamas to launch missiles at Israel?
     
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    Who is shooting rockets at Israel again? Who broke the cease fire?
     
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    Hamas could've attempted a good faith explanation of what you say right now, had they not unilaterally started firing rockets at Israel...
     
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    Do I have to do all your homework ? Israel cracked down on Hamas using this pretext --
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    Dated June 18th, 2014

    JERUSALEM—As the search for three kidnapped Israeli youths enters its sixth day, Israeli security forces are cracking down on Hamas in an effort to break the back of the militant organization.

    Some 300 Palestinians have been detained thus far, the bulk of them Hamas operatives and parliamentarians according to Israeli spokesmen. Among them are more than 50 former security prisoners who were among the 1,027 released three years ago in exchange for Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier who had been held for five years in the Gaza Strip.


    see here --

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/israel-cracks-down-on-hamas-following-kidnapping/

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    The problem can be so easily solved....DON F&CKING GIVE ISRAEL PRETEXTS. Don't murder Israelis, don't kidnap, don't fire rockets into Israel.... Why is it so hard to understand for some?

    Let me remind you that Hamas is the government of both Gaza and the West Bank, they were hiding, aiding and abetting those murderers which is a crime by itself. They should have arrested them and extradited to Israel, better yet, they could have hung them. Case solved, Israel and Hamas sing Kumbaya. Instead they chose to become co-conspirators. What a bunch of idiots, they have themselves only to blame.
     
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    You mean who broke each of the 5 cease fires? That would be Hamas, the terrorists.
     
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    Okay fair enough. You think that Israel over reacted to the kidnappings of the three boys by going into West Bank and going door to door arresting Hamas agents.

    So then, that's when Hamas started firing missiles?
     
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    This last time, Hamas didn't break the truce until Israel had killed one of their leaders who was trying to stop rogue rocket attacks. Last year june, they actually sent out 600 people to stop these same rogue attacks.

    Israel kept the truce until the 3 kids were killed and then that was their breaking point.

    So basically a rogue unit of Hamas killed the kids, Israel used that as a reason to open up on Gaza, which then set off official Hamas.


    In the end, it's a merry go round of death in which neither side is wholly innocent.
     
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    Do these Palestinians who commit these crimes not care that their actions will lead to the deaths of innocent people? Because, as history has illustrated every time someone does something like this Israel beats them down and beats them down badly.
     
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    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/killed-turning-onslaught.html

    Does it really matter? Israelis have rockets falling down on their heads, huge net of tunnels, kidnappings... There is no other way for them than get their hands dirty go to Gaza and try to restore at least some order over there.
     
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    The rockets came after Israeli aggression.
     
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    No, the Jewish terrorists were the ones killing random Palestinians and arresting Hamas politicians after the murders.
     
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    Fizzle rockets that barely make a hole in the ground are not a threat to the Jews. They are being their usual, deceiving selves when they say the contrary.

    The rockets should stop when Israel lifts its siege off Gaza.
     
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    The abduction of three Israeli youths is very well timed during the Ramadan,
    sounds so fishy.
     
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    I hope this stops.
     
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    I wish your wedding would be interrupted this way.

    [video=youtube;x7qUlUEH5RE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qUlUEH5RE[/video]

    Even if a small and weak child tries to kill you he deserves to get his ass kicked.
     
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    Incredible over 1000 PEOPLE have died and you think a wedding being interrupted is important?

    When the UK wanted IRA terrorist's from Southern Ireland you think we should've just gone over the border arrested and tortured anyone we chose to, destroyed their houses, made their families homeless and then cried wolf when Eire fired rockets at us?

    No because we followed due process, even though getting a IRA terrorist from Eire or USA was next to impossible.
     
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    Rammstein, my point of contention with you on this is that in actuality there is no evidence that Hamas was indeed responsible.
     
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    Hmm, really? How come most airlines found them dangerous enough to cancel flights to Israel? I bet you know better than them though, don't you?

    And if they aren't dangerous, why does Hamas prefer shooting them to a ceasefire?

    Less we forget that rockets were falling on Israeli towns daily BEFORE the blockade and were the primary cause of establishing it in the first place.
     
  22. Blinda Vaganto

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    Says who?

    I don't care about IRA. Hamas commits acts of war against Israel. Israel owns every right to defend itself.
     
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    That is understandable, anything that shows Israel does not have to behave the way it does must be ignored. Only the party line Hamas are terrorists, Hamas are at fault for everything should be propagated. No dissent, no waivering, no compromises Israel is always right no peace,more land!

    Just whinge about wedding arrangements, well as least the bride and groom are in one piece
     
  24. Blinda Vaganto

    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, but I don't trust to organization which labeled zionism as racist ideology.

    But I do trust this.

     
  25. RiaRaeb

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    Yes Yes, heard it all before, the only people who are honest and fair, who understand international law,who always speak the truth are Zionists.
    And they are not racist despite, some comparing Hitlers ideas on race with their own!
     

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