Hamas rockets reach Jerusalem and Tel Aviv

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well HBendor the British fought Arabs and found them quite formidable opponents, however our experience fighting Zionist's is restricted to terrorist's who were attacking us, even while we were fighting the Nazi's, saving the lives of lots of the people whose relatives now occupy Palestine. The Zionist's who even killed a Jew, hanging him from a tree, even though he had personally helped the Zionist cause. I believe the piece of scum who was fully aware he was ordering the killing of his own kind later became President of Israel.
    Care to discuss why Zionist's were attacking people, who if they hadn't stood alone against Hitler, then there might not be enough Jews let alone Zionists left alive to form Israel.
     
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    That make sense...
    Yes, Yes all these ridiculous anti Jews flaunting the Scottish Flag. Please clean your own backyard before getting involved in the M.E.

    You are the worst of the worst, you do not wear underpants and quite a majority live in Ireland proper.
    I have a picture of two Scottish officers sitting with the queen of England with their dangling saxophone organs showing.
     
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    We have sorted our own back yard, there is peace a compromise has been reached with the majority of ALL Ireland.

    And what homoerotic pictures you treasure really doesn't bother me.
     
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    Paleos Launch Rockets At Tel Aviv And Jerusalem

    They might as well be, for all the firepower they have available. This is pretty much a group of people with no modern weaponry facing off against an invader who is financed and armed by the world's richest, most advanced military powers, and given leeway to bomb and kill that virtually unarmed group any time they feel like it.

    The murder of 3 teens does not justify this. It hasn't even been established who did it. Neither does the firing of some rockets justify it, as the damage was nil.

    But now more hundreds of people are being killed by a bunch of Jewish fascists in 'retribution'. It's absolutely appalling, but the US regime will not intervene, because Israel is a US military outpost in the Middle East. When they say they are our best ally or some such, it is because we need them and they need us for shared global strategic and economic interests. Israel needs us to exist as such, and we need Israel to maintain control over neighboring countries as well as the Suez.
     
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    Guess that to some, terrorism is just the cat's meow so long as the defenses against it are up to snuff.
     
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    And so? Focusing on the past will not resolve the present or create a peaceful future.
     
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    "Terrorism" is the label used to justify this Zio-Nazi policy. What Israel has done to the people now locked in Gaza is far worse than mere terrorism.
     
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    We? You fought no one. I challenge whether you are even British .

    Both the Irgun and Haganah-Palmach were part of the British armed forces in Palestine in WW2.

    As well the British did not as you say only encounter Zionist terrorists. That is an absolute and utter lie. In fact Gen.Allenby led the Royal Jordanian Legion with British officers in the attack on Palestinian Jews. The British flew the Egyptian Air Force against the Jews fighting for independence.

    In fact you might want to look up how the British assisted the Arab League invasion of Palestinian to supposedly push the Jews into the sea.

    You might also want to read Churchill's memoirs before you pose as "we".

    Tell me where were you when Britain deported Jews back to Nazi Germany to their death? Where were you?

    I would love to know since you have brought it up.
     
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    Yes because you have lived in Gaza, you know.

    Another armchair expert thousands of miles away presuming to know what Gaza is.

    You know nothing. Had you been to Gaza your tone would be far different.

    To start with you would understand how Hamas operates on the ground and what it has meant since they started to do so.
     
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    Interesting then. If you were British or do you want to be called Scottish you would know for that peace deal to come about, the IRA disarmed itself before it came to the peace table and agreed to denounce terrorism and taking back Northern Ireland.

    Funny how that works. When it comes to Israel though, Hamas does not have to disarm right. They don't have to denounce their charter. They don't have to stop their terrorism..not wiith you right after all Israel is just a bunch of terrorists right? What worked in Northern Ireland doesn't mean a thing right? Never mind the British did far worse in Ulster or Belfast or Derry than Israel has ever done in Gaza right? Never mind the IRA was no better than Hamas right? we just skip all that right?

    Homoerotica? You want to wear a kilt just keep it from blowing in the wind.
     
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    The Islamo Fascist declaration of war in 1948 against the Jews was designed to err eradicate an entire peoples that to this day has not stopped is the elephant in the room. Pray tell us all when the peace treaty was signed.
     
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    Time ran out before I could edit my earlier response to you as to the above.

    In fact of the 470,000 Jews of Palestine,30,000 of them volunteered to fight for the British in WW2.

    In fact the Irgun allied with Britain in 1940 and provided intelligence for its East European,North African, and Iraqi war theatres.

    If you were in fact Scottish or British you would know who the East Kent Regiment was and you would know that there were 3 Jewish batallions and even a Palestinian Arab one that fought side by side the British and Jews thanks to the Nashashibi clan.

    You would know that one of Irgun's leaders died assisting the British attack Nazis in Iraq and Jews died as part of the Special Interogation Group an elite commando unit that fought the Nazis in North Africa.

    You would have also known of the 5,000 volunteers who fought in the Jewish Brigade.

    In fact the British fought side by side Zionists against the Nazis. The Stern-Lehi gang which never amounted to more than 200 or so individuals did identify with the Italian fascists but were neutralized during WW2 by the remainder of Irgun.

    What you would also know if you were British is that during WW2 the Royal Navy sent Jews fleeing the holocaust back to Germany to their deaths even though Jews were dying after they escaped to Palestine fighting for the British.

    You would know that in fact both the Irgun and Haganah-Palmach were part of the British armed forces in Palestine in WW2 and as they fought dying for the Bitish the Royal Navy sent Jews back to their death in Germany.

    As well you would knowGen.Allenby led the Royal Jordanian Legion with British officers in the attack on Palestinian Jews in the war to wipe them out in 1949. The British flew the Egyptian Air Force against the Jews fighting for independence.

    In fact you might want to look up how the British assisted the Arab League invasion of Palestinian to supposedly push the Jews into the sea.

    With due respect I challenge you are Scottish or British. If you were how could youmake the statement the only encounters the British had with Zionists were with terrorists?

    :toast:
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We were the British, The British stood alone against the Nazi's, and in so doing saved Jewish lives. Jewish lives mind you not Zionists lives it was only after WW2 that Zionist's became a majority amongst Jews.

    No I wasn't born in WW2 but my grandfather was on Convoy duty, escorting merchant ships to Russia. A Russia that without those convoys, may well have been beaten by the German's, and then what for the European Jews and the Zionist state? And my father was in the RAF but joined too late for service in WW2.

    The British were sending Jewish refugees to Mauritius, or at least they tried to until the Haganah blew a hole in the side of one of the ships, killing 250 Jews. The Haganah claimed the refugees blew the ship up in desperation!. Not having the balls to admit what they had done. And conveniently starting another myth of Zionist victimhood.

    As for Winston Churchill, without him, and virtually him alone the British may well of sued for peace with Hitler. Again what of the plight of the European Jews if Hitler had been able to fight on just one front. And Churchill resisted the formation of the Jewish Brigade fearing that they would stab Britain in the back, exactly what they did do smuggling illegal immigrants from post war Europe into Palestine.

    Then we have the hanging of the Two Sergeants one of which was Jewish, men who had helped the Irgun.

    I could go on with Zionist duplicity but it's boring and sickening me
     
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    All very interesting but I did not say "only encounter Zionist terrorists" I said our experience was fighting Zionist Terrorist's. I am well aware of the contribution of Jews to the British Army and fighting alongside them some of whom were Zionist's. But the only time we ever fought against Zionist's they were terrorist, by any definition.
     
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    I was just wondering what the other guy meant, that's all.

    And I agree I don't think that dwelling on the past is going to resolve what is quite clearly a cyclical conflict.
    So far I haven't actually seen anyone come up with any solutions aside from "blow them up"
     
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    You seem to of missed one important part of the peace treaty where the British government states that while the majority of people in Northern Ireland wish to remain British it will do. However should the majority of people ever wish it to join Eire it will do so. Now how much chance do you think there is that the Israeli's would agree to such a condition of peace with the Palestinians. No chance.

    I am not Scottish I am Welsh, Wales used to be an independent country until a English king waged a war against us financed by the Jews as it happens. Admittedly the English King reneged on the deal and expelled the Jews from Britain, one of the first programs against the Jews in Europe. Not that I give a monkeys mind, I do dislike the Jews, I have empathy with them we were both screwed by the English. Not that I dislike the English either because all this happened so long ago it should have no bearing on our times. I only mention it to show how what would appear to be to un-connected peoples can have connections in their past not commonly known. Maybe the Zionists could learn the lesson to forget historical prejudices!

    HBendor says he has picture of two Scottish men stood by the Queen, with what from his weird description states would appear to be their male genitalia on show. Personally that's not my bag, but if he likes it fine. I am assuming HBendor is a man, however should he be a she I apologise and it is just erotica!
     
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    Scots and Britons are one and the same.
    For future reference:
    The United Kingdom consists of four nations, England,Scotland, Wales and NI
    They are together known as the British.
    The geographic term of Great Britain refers to the British isles excluding Ireland but has often been used in place of the UK.
    They were assigned to garrison duties and of course they were only assigned to the Buffs for a short period before being formed into a regiment of their own.
    And considering just how many regiments that were and still are in the British army it's too much to remember them all.
    The Irgun were not on the side of Britain during WWII and were terrorists.
    I doubt that they were fighting Nazi's in Iraq.
    No they didn't and it wasn't until after the war that a few were deported back with many being interned at Cyprus for their own protection.
    You mean Edmund Allenby? He died in 1936.
    And no we didn't fly the EAF. In fact they attacked us in '48.
    We didn't.
    The function of Britain during the latter mandate years was to provide stability and security.
    Obviously circumstances were against us at the time and after having spent six years fighting off the Germans we were exhausted and if we hadn't done so then there simply wouldn't be any Jews left in Europe.
     
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    Ref. Post #140: Since the people in Central America are moving to the US maybe the Palestinians can move to Central America?
     
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    No. it was a provision of the Belfast agreement.

    When it comes to insurgencies, The British won theirs.
    I suggest that you understand how and then study the differences between that and Israeli tactics.
    Because in the history of guerilla warfare it's Britain that has bucked the trend
    It might be something to learn from
    Not really. In Ulster we kept the IRA from shooting unionists. In fact if we hadn't been there then it would most likely of spiralled into a civil war that would of cost tens of thousands.
    Sure there were a couple of unsanctioned shootings but there's no excuse nowadays.
    There are some similarities but not the same.
     
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    Jerusalem proper has always been the most populated part of that area, but nonetheless in that census (at least according to Uriel Schmelz) they formed only a quarter of the total population. In addition, that very census says that Jerusalem kaza (administrative district) had 67,000 Muslims, 28,000 Christians, and just 13,000 Jews. (Schmelz, 1990). Hebron, meanwhile, for example,had 56,600 Muslims, almost no Christians, and a paltry 800 Jews. Furthermore, I was talking about centuries of history, not just the 40 years prior to the mandate ending which was when zionism was taking hold.

    Its not the 'near enough 100%' that I thought, I'll grant you, and thanks for putting me right on that. It's still a rock solid overwhelming majority however.
     
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    A fair point that the Ottomans were not Arabs. My mistake. Let's say "Islamists" then. But to deny that land was taken from... Arabs / Islamists / whatever technical bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you want to pull, is nonsense. People were literally run out of some places like Sderot. Just look at the continued landgrabs that exist to this day, its as plain as day. So, people were allowed to continue private ownership of their own little properties? Rarely do individuals really 'own' that in a real sense anyway, the true owner is the ruler. Just ask anyone who's had a CPO or equivalent served on them. Would you be happy continuing to "own" your own home if your country, by some inexplicable sci-fi-like event, was suddenly ruled by North Korea?

    No, it really does not matter one jot whether it was a country, state, territory, or outhouse. The influx of immigrants was designed to radically change the area against the wishes of the great majority of people who had inhabited it for centuries. That was, as you point out, quite legal, just like North Korea's dear leader having his family executed was quite legal.
     
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    I'm sorry, did 2008 not happen?
     
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    Palestine's targeting of civilian areas is a war crime.
     
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    In regards to 1; you again seem to miss the point...the majority of Israelis are Jewish and they will not agree to disband their state-why that is hard for you to understand? IYou think Ireland would agree to stop being a Catholic State or England an Anglican state?

    In regards to 2, right financed by Jews there we go. I was waiting for some reference to Jewish financiers. That took me by surprise.

    In regards to 4, do read 2 and 3 and then lol either shut up or practice what you preach

    Let me be serious with you. I lived there and I volunteered there. I do not claim to speak for Israelis or Palestinians. They must speak and decide their own fate. I had comrades die in the IDF, I saw things probably people saw in Belfast and Derry.

    Do I have a bias? I have many. I believe Jews do not need to convince you let alone explain to you why they came to return to Israel and live there with other Jews already there.

    Stop assuming you understand the Jews of Europe, of Africa, Asia and the Middle East, and on and on. You do not. Y


    My prejudice is not that a man is an Arab or Israeli-its whether he stands tall and can look me in the eye. I could care less who he is, if he hides behind civilians he is a coward.

    What fuels this war is terrorists-cowardly men who do not have the intellectual capacity or moral integrity to sit and talk-they have no confidence in themselves-they hold their own people hostage as pawns.

    Do me a favour, just try once to get over your own prejudices. You don't speak for Palestinians you have no clue who they are.Hating Jews doesn'tmake you an expert on what Palestinians want or how Israelis feel about them.
     
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    They outnumbered the Christian population and they outnumbered the Muslim population. "Christian or Muslim" as opposed to Christian and Muslim.
     

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