Happy Birthday, Lee Harvey Oswald

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  1. resisting arrest

    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Today is October 18. Who mourns for Lee Harvey Oswald??? Buried in a cheap grave under the alias "William Bobo".

    I know you are innocent. Rest in peace, perturbed spirit!
     
  2. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yet the evidence proves he was guilty as sin as any reasonable person ( leaving you out ) knows
     
  3. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    well we know he never killed him but what you dont seem to be aware of is there is evidence that it was an imposter look alike that got gunned down and he was alive for many decades,probably dead by now though.the reason it could not have been oswald killed in the basement is the birth Lee harvey oswald had a scar he was born with on his neck,the one that got gunned down did not have that scar and the one that was gunned down was only 5;8" where Oswald was listed at 5'11' in the marines so if there is a magical pill out there that can make you shrink inches,I sure would like one. the one that replied now will cry knowing i took him to school just now.:grin: as everyone here like yourself always does everyday as well.lol
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    We know he is kill jfk and the evidence is overwhelming.

    On the other hand your idiotic theories of the week have no supporting evidence.
     
  5. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Like clockwork just as I said, someone came on to whine and cry in defeat after my post as always.same as he whined in cried in defeat after your post hee hee.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Pointing out facts which prove you wrong is not whining and crying.

    Pretending those facts do not prove you wrong is whining and crying so you are projecting
     
  7. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    :roll: Grassy knoll head shot...etc.
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    I don't cry for Ozwald and I don't cry for Castro. I weep for our country and Cuba for the harm caused by these two individuals. They can put both bodies in a trash bag and throw them in a landfill for all I care.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Like I said no evidence.
     
  10. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    I will let the massive chunk of bone and brain matter that was blown out of the back of JFK's skull be the only reply needed while considering the source. Arguing with a denier is pointless.

    That's why the public, over the long decades, has always thought the story of Oswald, the lone nut case, was a bunch of bull crap!
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The public never thought any such thing only SOME people did.

    The large wound in the skull is merely a large wound it does not indicate anything like direction.

    All of the evidence shows Oswald did it and no evidence disputes that conclusion.
     
  12. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Yes. The overwhelming majority of the public
    whose opinion has remained constant.

    SO wrong! So very wrong.
    Exit wounds are always larger than entry wounds because of all the tissue being displaced. Google it and learn something, unless you already know
    and are merely acting like the Warren Commission.

    Not at all true.
     
  13. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Wrong you have no clue what the overwhelming majority of the public thinks and are out of touch. Only some people ( a minority ) are convinced that there was a conspiracy. Many believe there are unanswered questions but that is not the same thing.

    You cannot provide any evidence of what the public thinks and are simply wrong.

    The skull is not the same as the body despite what you have seen on TV and in movies which is where you get your knowledge of gun shot wounds.

    Head wounds are often very explosive regardless of where the wound originates at which is why your limited knowledge is misleading. The fact is the autopsy proved that the bullet originated above and from behind and the wounds is consistent with that. No evidence of any kind exists of a frontal headshot.

    Yes it is true there is no credible evidence whatsoever of a second shooter but crushing and overwhelming evidence of Oswald being the assassin
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Wow....I'm shocked. You are totally wrong! http://www.gallup.com/poll/165893/majority-believe-jfk-killed-conspiracy.aspx
    Since the very first polls on this issue little has changed....the public has never swallowed the hoax of Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone assassin.
    Anyone who has spent any time at all going over all the lies and inconsistencies of the Warren Commission knows why.


    This is absolute bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and the laws of physics are not altered based on where a projectile hits a person.
    I already urged you to look up the difference between entry and exit wounds (http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/entrance-and-exit-wounds.html) but of course you didn't look and you are happy with your blissful ignorance, or simply think others are not going to know the difference either, which is how the Warren Commission operated. It's crap!
    There's a reason why a very large section of the back of JFK's head was blown off...someone from the famous grassy knoll shot him in the front of the head
    thereby absolutely obliterating the lies of the Warren Commission and their unconscionable lies. And you lap it up!

    Your most likely willful ignorance is disgusting and repellent since the truth is so easy to ascertain. I don't know why such a loathsome lie
    gets you off that you would repeat and defend it but your credibility is next to zero as far as I'm concerned. Have a nice life.
     
  15. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but you failed.

    As I pointed out many people feel there are unanswered questions as your link showed. Others ( a minority ) insist there was a conspiracy ( although there is no evidence ). Others feel that there are some mysteries or that Oswald acted alone but may have been directed or motivated by others and so on.

    The point is there is a WIDE spectrum of opinion and that is fact the American people do not overwhelmingly agree with you ( or me ).

    Your link clearly shows this fact thus proving you wrong and me correct.

    The majority opinion is irrelevant in any case as facts and evidence determines truth consensus does not.

    The laws of physics do not dictate that a large entrance wound to the head is an exit wound every time sorry. And that is a fact easily proven as you cannot and will not cite such a law of physics. The skull is a hard dense bone not soft tissue and entrance wounds are in fact often large and gaping to the skull regardless of where they came from. Your link makes NO specific reference to head wounds and is EXCLUSIVELY discussing wounds to the body or extremities. Yes the shape and density and presence of the skull changes everything. In addition the link you cite does not state that exit wounds are ALWAYS ( as you claimed ) smaller than entrance wounds but that they USUALLY are.

    Once again this is WHY they have autopsies to determine such facts as where the wound entered from. The autopsy is hardcore evidence and it is not refuted. Especially by your uninformed opinion.

    You know nothing about the Warren Commission report or how it operated and have never bothered to read it or it's evidence or it's conclusions. No one fired a weapon from the grassy knoll. There is no evidence that anyone did and it would have been a ludicrous place to shoot at Kennedy from.

    The autopsy clearly PROVED the bullet to the head entered from above and behind which is consistent with Oswald's nest. Once again the massive wound proves nothing different and is consistent with that evidence. The VAST majority of witnesses heard the shots coming from the direction of Oswald's nest and few heard anything else with no consensus. The fence on the grassy knoll was at an oblique angle to Elm street which meant Kennedy would have been crossing and approaching the line of sight of anyone shooting from there. It also would have made the target appear to be moving faster. All of this makes for a far more difficult shot than from Oswald's position where the target only appeared to be moving slowly away from the shooter. The Grassy knoll was open to view from the side of the fence which the shooter would have had to shoot from making it MASSIVELY conspicuous and impossible to fire from without being seen. Many witnesses on that side of the fence reported NOTHING. Such as Lee Bowers who had an unobstructed view of the exact spot a shooter would have stood and fired from and saw nothing but general commotion after the fact. The fence itself would have required either a very tall shooter or a platform to stand on in order to accurately fire over. Either way a very tall man or one standing on a platform would have been massively conspicuous and impossible to hide.

    On the other hand a school book warehouse is filled with boxes which is typical of ANY warehouse. This allows for easy construction of a nest to shield the shooter from easy view or observation which is what Oswald did. It also allows for easy construction of a stable and effective firing platform with no worries about permanent obstacles such as a fence.

    Only three shots were fired and all physical evidence shows Oswald fired them and that is fact.

    You simply have nothing.

    Sorry it is not my credibility but the facts and evidence which merely prove you wrong and demonstrate that you are gullible enough to buy a bridge in brooklyn which is the equivalent of the story you have naively fallen for.

    Not disgusting merely sad that you are gullible enough to believe Tv and fail to research the facts. But that is what you are and have failed to do
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Stop right there!
    I've offered no opinion other than to say the bogus manipulated conclusion of the Warren Commission, that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone as the shooter, is plainly and patently false.
    The many lies and errors of the commission could fill books, and they have. And the public's long standing disbelief in the lone gunman theory has always
    been one of disbelief and skepticism.

    True and the public's long standing
    rejection of the Warren Commission is not enough to convict anyone. But it is indicative of mass rejection of the manufactured tripe the government tried
    to put over on the public. The Warren narrative can be studied and deconstructed and rejected on any number of grounds and the public's long standing
    opinion of the report is just one indicator of this.

    It's the law of displacement and I've already explained once how tissue, brain matter and bone, all
    being pushed out an entrance wound by a rifle round, necessarily must create a larger exit than entrance wound due to displacement.

    "When a bullet enters a body, it hits at a single point. All of the energy of the bullet is directed through the pointed end of the bullet (unless it is hollow point, which is why those are so much worse). This rips a hole just big enough for the bullet itself.

    Once the bullet is inside the body, that energy starts getting lost to the tissue surrounding it. It creates a compression wave of your body tissue. Your muscle, bone, fat, etc is slowing down the bullet by compressing, squishing together. But your body isn't 100% compress-able (in fact, since it is made of water it doesn't compress very well at all), so instead that very tissue starts moving due to the force of the bullet. It hits more tissue, which in turn hits more tissue, creating an ever expanding bulge of moving tissue. Sure the more tissue that gets involved the slower it goes, but that just slows things down from 900+ mph to 700+ mph. So while one small bullet goes in, a fist sized chunk of tissue is moving at hundreds of miles per hour by the time it exits."

    Hence the large chunk blown out of the back of JFK's head....I figured an explanation from a site that literally is titled "Explain it to me like I was five"
    will illustrate things for anyone really unaware of forensic science and physics but of course that doesn't apply to people who are emotionally invested in
    denying science and the truth. In any case the answer remains the same and your attempts to explain away science are comic but just plain wrong.


    Of course it is refuted by well qualified and learned people like one the most eminent forensic pathologists in the country, Dr. Cryil Wecht. http://www.wtae.com/article/cyril-wecht-on-jfk-assassination-lets-uncover-the-truth/7129055

    Like the "fact" of the magic bullet?
    The invention of Arlen Specter? What a joke.

    The Zapruder film which shows the kill shot (and how it rocked the president)and the Parkland doctors that were first to see and note the massive gaping wound to the back of JFK's head (indicating a bullet to the front of his head, unmistakably) say you are full of it and the only question is why are you so invested in promulgating a lie?

    Not even worth dignifying with a response other than to say I feel for you.
     
  17. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    You have offered many opinions based on falsehoods.

    Once again you keep talking about a bullet entering the body not the SKULL and you ignore that this is exclusively what the site you linked to discusses.

    You also ignore that the site you refer to states that USUALLY an entrance wound is smaller than an exit wound whereas you claim ALWAYS.

    The skull is different to the body and damage done to a round hard object such as a skull will be vastly different than a wound to the body which is largely soft tissue. No law of physics supports you which is why you have failed to name one. A large gaping wound does not automatically determine entrance and exit points which is why autopsies are needed. Sorry but you keep ignoring that absolute fact.

    I dare you to specifically point out even one lie or significant error in the warren commission sorry but you can not do so because you have never read it and have no idea what it says.

    The books you claim to be filled with such claims are FICTION they do not present evidence of lies.

    It is not refuted in any way shape or form and this Dr Wecht merely stated opinion without evidence.

    A refutation requires evidence not opinion.

    Sorry but more ignorance from you about Arlen Specter. HE never invented the magic bullet theory. Conspiracy theorists invented the magic bullet theory out of whole cloth. So many of them have repeated it that it is difficult to say who started it But Jim Garrison took credit for it claiming he coined the term. Unfortunately the magic bullet theory is a huge lie which conspiracy theorists like YOU have fallen for.

    Movement of a body does not always indicate where the shot came from and neither do massive holes as I have shown. The drs at Parkland never claimed to have seen an entrance wound in the front of his head.

    It is you promulgating the lies sir.

    The conspiracy theory industry has been lying since day one about the JFK assassination and BTW Dr Wecht is part of that industry.

    the gullible such as you fall for it but the evidence proves you wrong.
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    I don't owe you anymore scientific explanations or videos from notable forensic pathologists to establish my point. It's been made so why not just (*)(*)(*)(*) off and take your nonsense with you?
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it has not been made as I clearly proved the sources you cited do NOT support your claim.

    They have nothing at all to do with your claim and in fact refute part of your claim proving you wrong.

    So yes you made assertions you cannot support and have failed to support
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Utter nonsense and factually unsupported babble.
     
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    The skull shattering shot resulting in a mist of blood, brain, etc. over the trunk of the car
    came from in front of JFK. Not above and behind.
    Lee Harvey Oswald was set up as a single shooter.
    I believe in the Grassy Knoll as the location of the skull shattering shot.
    And I always will.


    Moi :oldman:


    r > g


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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes that is all you post.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wrong.

    All the evidence proves that the shots all came from Oswald's position above and behind.

    Oswald was the shooter and the only one.

    You may as well believe that the earth is flat.
     
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    A shot from above and behind vaporizes JFK's skull over the trunk of the car,
    directly behind JFK and in line with the shooter on the grassy knoll. Yup. Sure. Right. Uh-huh.

    It is unfortunate the video records have been so doctored as to remove that highlight
    as well as Jackie crawling out of the back seat on to the trunk of the car too.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


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    The skull burst and as is very typical with head wounds the blood and matter spread everywhere not JUST over the trunk. There was blood and brain matter found on the dash and on the inside of the windshield. Much of it landed on the trunk for the simple reason that as blood and brain matter flew upward the car continued to move forward. Therefore it came down behind the part of the car it originated from. Very simple and NOT evidence of a frontal shot.

    The autopsy evidence proves the shot came from behind and above. All of the physical evidence proves Oswald was firing above nd behind and no evidence indicates another shooter especially on the grassy knoll.

    The video records have not been doctored except in some cases by idiotic conspiracy theorists who claim something stupid like the driver shooting Kennedy.

    The un-doctored unedited film has been around for a long time and shows nothing to support your claim.
     
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    Obviously JFK's head was rocked backwards, and a gaping exit wound in the back of his skull was all caused by an assassin shooting JFK from the front of his limousine, the "grassy knoll" or from a street level water drain being the two most frequently mentioned possibilities...eye witnesses immediately all ran to the grassy knoll as that's where they all heard the shot emanating from (an unmistakable wisp of smoke rising from there was also caught in photos taken just moments after the shots).

    Anyone claiming otherwise has honesty, emotional and/or factual problems reconciling the myth of Oswald the lone shooter with all the voluminous evidence to
    the contrary.
     

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