Harvard Grad Student Facing Eviction over Legally Owned and Stored Firearms

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it is.

    The laws are passed by the government to do their Constitutionally mandated requirement...to.protect.your.rights.

    That's the whole point of the courts telling colleges they can't infringe on your 1st amendment rights!

    When do you sue someone or take them to court?

    When they violated your rights!
     
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    The colleges that can't control speech are public ones. They are government and are bound by the bill of rights. Private colleges are not because the bill of rights limits government and nothing else. Please, let's stop this.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If, and ONLY if, you know what limitations are placed on your speech, and agree to those limitations before engaging with them.

    Otherwise, no, they cannot.

    Leonard law:

    No private postsecondary educational institution shall make or enforce a rule subjecting a student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of conduct that is speech or other communication that, when engaged in outside the campus or facility of a private postsecondary institution, is protected from governmental restriction by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution or Section 2 of Article I of the California Constitution. (Cal. Educ. Code § 94367(a).)
     
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    We are talking about the U.S. Bill of rights, not the California constitution. The U.S. Bill of rights limits government and nothing else, for the fourth or fifth time.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Leonard law is just one example.

    As I already said, when it comes to private colleges, they do not have carte blanche to stifle your free speech.

    They cannot tell you that you can, or cannot, do or say certain things and the free speech limitations are specific in scope.

    You could not, for example, join a Catholic school and use it as a platform to speak out as a satanist.

    The school could not violate any of your other rights, like random searches of your home, or surveilling you outside their property. Even then, you must willfully enter into an agreement with the party that agrees to the restrictions. It's a contract of sorts.

    PF, for example, can limit your speech on THIS private forum. They cannot, however, plant software on your computer without your knowledge, or approval. If they did so, they would be subject to a lawsuit based on laws written (and enforced) by the government that has been charged with protecting your rights.

    The Bill of Rights recognizes that your rights are natural rights that everyone has, and that no one should be allowed to infringe on. It precludes the government from infringing on them and requires the government to protect them.

    YOUR RIGHTS ARE THE BASIS OF THE LAWS WRITTEN TO PROTECT THEM.

    If the US government closed shop tomorrow, your rights would still exist independent of any person or group recognizing them. It would just be on you to protect them.
     
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    I give up. Goodbye.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Enjoy being strip searched at work and having to put up with it I guess.
     
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