Harvey Weinstein Sentenced to 23 Years in Prison

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  1. CCitizen

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    Likely he is indeed guilty due to the large number of accusers.

    But many average men without good lawyers have been convicted on one accusation alone. This is Presumption of Guilt.
     
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    According to MSM, there was two accusers, and none of them had any evidence.
    Actually one accuser still love Harvey, but I guess the perspective to take his money outweighed her love.
    He just used his power to buy sex.
    This is american culture

    in Unites States

    first you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman
    Tony Montana.
    Scarface https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086250/
     
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    Your position is extreme. Some MRA claims can be as exaggerated as some Feminist claims.

    Definitely, violent men are a danger to women and almost all women care about these issues.

    Definitely, Presumption of Guilt is a danger to all men -- men must care about their collective interests. Sadly few do.
     
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    I know it is extreme, but there no other way to fight slavery and discrimination.
     
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    An eye for an eye?

    You do have a point, though.
     
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    Yup, I agree with your statement, there should be a consensus and should be free not forceful nor coerced. But, I guess the evidences did sent him to jail and not the accusations because that's how the justice system works.
     
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    Justice system works only if it is not politically charged.
    In case of Weinstein the decision was 100% political and emotional.
    Unfortunately there is no checks and balances that prevent justice system to act that way.
     
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    I certainly don't know why the case and the verdict was political in nature? I think the justice system is equal to all regardless of political affiliation or social stature.
     
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    I haven't been interested in this but I felt uncomfortable with your post so had a look and read a couple of articles.

    From what I read he was a bastard. Sometimes he intimidated them into having sex with him, sometimes he was violent, sometimes he threatened to destroy their careers, sometimes he did...again and again and again.

    He did not make them rich and famous. Their ability made them rich and famous despite his physical and emotional violence towards them.

    I don't care how big a sentence he got. He used his position to harm people again and again and again due to his misogyny.

    It looks like many people's attitude to rape is as bad as it ever was.

    I am shocked that the attitude still appears to be well they deserved it. They were there. I thought this attitude had gone a long time ago. I was surprised when 'Me too' got started. Now I can see we haven't even begun to change attitudes.
    No, if a woman is wearing a low cut dress she does not want to be raped. No if a man gets a hard on it will not kill him not to rape this woman.

    No, if you want to be an actress that does not mean that you are want to be raped.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41580010

    This man repeatedly raped and abused women because his position enabled him to. He deserves no sympathy.
     
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    I guess he is guilty.

    It is still sad that USA has extremely long prison terms and treats prisoners with extreme cruelty.

    Even the worst terrorist does not deserve cruel punishment or torture.
     
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    He made some rich by the exchange. And some were willing to get the break into a biz that is hard to get into no matter the talent.

    I am not condoning it just noting this has gone on in hollywood since it has existed. The casting couch. No one should be shocked given it was common knowledge

    Perhaps him going to prison will finally end this very old paradigm in that biz .
     
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    The definition of rape is very vague.
    Women were selling sex for value, that is a crime in United States.
    Since no woman went to jail we can't say that Weinstein had fair trial.
    Weinstein trial is just a form of witchhunt.
    Those women knew very well who is Harvey Weinstein.
    They were selling sex for value.
    Weinstein, just a scapegoat
    He was selected to scare men in general, as part of policy of social male castration.
    But system will stay the same, may be it will be more sophisticated, but women are going to sell sex for the opportunity to get closer to the power.
     
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