Has the American justice system become hopelessly politically compromised?

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Has the American justice system been politcally biased?

  1. Yes, it has a huge right wing bias, Barr is Trump's lapdog and protects his/his lackey's corruption

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  2. Yes, it shows some right wing bias

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  3. No, it is truly imaprtial

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  4. Yes, it shows some left wing bias

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  5. Yes it shows huge left wing bias and is a tool of the Deep State to persecute those who oppose them!

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Does seem strange, some people from one side of the political spectrum seem to be endlessly prosecuted for very minor offences and others seem to get off scot free purely on the whim of the prosecutor (which seems to be a thing in the US as the recent Grant Robichaux case seems to prove). Do you think the justice system is hopelessly biased?

    I'm going to go for yes, for Comey, Hilary Clinton and McCabe to go wholly unpunished for their malpractices whilst people like Flynn are hung out to dry, the clear bias/conflict of interest of some of the Mueller FBI investigators and elderly, unarmed Roger Stone receives the sort of raid you normally see for terrorists. The US really needs a root and branch reform of it's system.
     
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    Thanks to Trump, we've managed to restore something approaching a rational balance on the Supreme Court (since the rather peculiar death of Justice Antonin Scalia, four years ago this month....). 8)

    Obama put two hyperliberal, lock-step Democrats on the Court: Sotomayor and Kagan.
    Trump put two Constitution-defending Republicans on the Court: Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

    Right now, what gives radical, America-hating Democrats bug-eyed, epileptic fits is the reality that dependably-liberal Justice Ruth Ginsburg, who will be EIGHTY-SEVEN YEARS OLD in less than a month from now, could fall over dead at any moment! :twisted:
     
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    In the case of political operatives, I think we have a major problem. Prime example- Roger Stone. His judge apparently willing to allow a biased jury to be stacked against him aside, it would regardless be difficult to find any random selection of 12 people who don't already have a bias for or against him. In red areas, he will be found innocent. In blue areas, he will be found guilty. Our political polarization will make trials of political operatives very problematic for the forseeable future, unless we can come up with a way to find the increasingly illusive true political moderates with which to build juries for their trials.
     
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    As it stands the nation very definitely possesses a double tiered justice system wherein if you are important Dem Party operatives -- even if you are a RINO -- you are NOT going to end up behind bars except under extremely unusual circumstances such as protecting someone higher up the food chain. If you are a conservative or have ever even been friendly or honorable in regards to conservatives then your rump is grass and the justice system is the riding lawnmower. It's so obvious that there is no point in even discussing it any more.
     
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    The correct answer is 1,2, 4 and 5.
     
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    If it was truly compromised there wouldn't be any prosecutions of Trump associates. Clearly that's not the case. You didn't see anything like this in the last administration...
     
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    Obama was prosecuted for his campaign finance violations and the whole ATF thing?
     
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    Does seem that way sometimes, it's weird, normally law enforcement are inherently right wing?
     
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    Normally, yes; and line LEOs most likely still are -- especially after a few years on the job after they comprehend how unnecessarily difficult and dangerous leftist interference with their jobs has become over the course of decades; but the upper level hierarchy no longer actually works for a living, for them it can become all about the money and the politics and its attendant graft. It is after all the upper level hierarchy that decides who's going to get the shaft . . . or not.
     
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    Quite right. And that's exactly WHY the SMART thing for Trump to have done would have been to KEEP HIS FUGGING MOUTH SHUT about all of it!

    It wouldn't matter if some radical-Leftist court gave Stone a seven-year sentence or a SEVEN-HUNDRED YEAR sentence -- because -- AFTER the election -- Trump could wipe it all out with a pen-stroke!

    Instead, Trump's blowing all the good will from the failed Democrat effort to destroy him with their idiotic 'impeachment' ploy and utterly wasting it -- unnecessarily -- on this 'Stone' thing. Mindless!

    It reminds me of Hitler deciding that he just had to direct von Paulus' Wehrmacht Army to take Stalingrad so that he could humiliate Josef Stalin instead of concentrating on securing the precious oil reserves way down to the south of there! Besides, Hitler didn't need Stalingrad -- he could have cut traffic on the Volga River anywhere else! Idiocy! Stalin wasn't 'humiliated', and afterwards, Germany didn't have enough oil, gas, and diesel to go on fighting effectively at all....

    And, not to draw too many similarities, but it is true that Stalingrad is actually where Hitler lost the war! :cynic:
     
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    Has the American justice system become hopelessly politically compromised?

    At the federal level yes. At the local level, probably not.
     
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    I say YES,

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...evich-milken-and-kerik/ar-BB1085ZF?ocid=ientp
     
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    By his own justice department.. the same one that rolled it's eyes investigating Clinton.
     
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    It takes about two months on average to confirm a SCOTUS judge, so y’all have a little less than a year to get your hope for her death to come true.
    Better get to praying to your god(s).

    If the senate approves a judge from a president that has both lost reelection and been impeached while they outright refused because it was the “last year” and they wanted to “let the people decide” I will fully support democrats doing whatever they can to remove these illegitimate justices.
     
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    I doubt anyone is hoping she dies, just retires. If Trump gets to appoint a new judge and then loses the election any attempt to remove his pick will be a battle that will make Brett Kavanaugh look like Traffic court.
     
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    She will not retire until he is out of office.
     
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    She may not have a choice given her health?
     
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    She will not willingly do so, she may be forced to do so — I hope she has a healthy life after retirement, you may not agree with her policy but she is kind person.
     
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    Seems the right time to resurrect this thread given the recent revelations as to the FBI investigation into Mike Flynn, really suggests a law enforcement organisation which has been compromised at the highest level, the idea that an investigation could be kept open on the instruction of one individual even after it has reported no evidence of any offence and then establish a 'perjury trap' is appalling.
     
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    The courts have a left wing bias.. the only problem with that is this.. a synonym for left wing is unconstitutional.
     
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    We don't need "kind" people on the Supreme Court.
    We need people who are well versed in the US Constitution and are committed to upholding the Constitution regardless of any personal biases they may have
    and with impartial application of the law. Liberty and Justice.....for ALL.

    The US Constitution was written specifically for the well being of US citizens.
    Some "Justices" have taken it upon themselves to redefine the Constitution as being written for the well being of all global citizens.

    Too many have been placed on the SCOTUS to fulfill politically correct quotas. The judicial system has become a self appointed legislative branch.
    The damage done to the Republic because of these grave errors is self evident in the ever expanding list of violations to personal rights.
     
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    I could care less if they are kind or mean.

    The only thing that should matter is their commitment to constitutional rule..

    I'd like to see their duties increased however.

    I want them to start working through laws to determine their constitutionality without waiting for it to be brough to them in a court case.
    Forget presidents forget what previous courts did. Just straight up what does the constitution say.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    Let's remember that criminal statutes are only like ammunition with which a prosecutor is legally able to use against a selected target of their choosing.

    Some naively minded people make the mistake of thinking that passing a law automatically prevents that thing from happening, or that all laws are inherently fair and just.
     
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