Has the FBI shown a double standard regarding Trump and Clinton?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Jan 20, 2019.

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Has the FBI shown a double standard to Trump and Clinton?

  1. Yes, they persecute Trump and ignore Hilary

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    69.8%
  2. Perhaps, one seems to get much more focus than the other

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  3. Neither here nor there

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  4. Probably not, this is just Trump 'fake news'.

    8 vote(s)
    15.1%
  5. No, that's ridiculous

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    3.8%
  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the problem is that the dossier was made public... it undermined Trumps presidency from day 1
     
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    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    So what? What goes around comes around.
     
  3. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a spiteful answer... means you do not have your country's best interests at heart... the only thing that matters is hatred and to be as spiteful as you possibly can. This sort of attitude will rip America apart and only make it ungovernable.
     
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    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Getting rid of Trump is out country's best interest at heart.

    This "the only thing that matters is hatred and to be as spiteful as you possibly can. This sort of attitude will rip America apart and only make it ungovernable" defines the Trumper right.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe...although Bush took America into Iraq and Afghanistan and caused far more damage to America's economy and image than Trump has so far in his presidency.

    Also, you and I believe he is guilty, but should he not be actually found guilty first. He has basically been tried and found guilty by millions of people in public.
     
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    In YOUR opinion, you're so besotted with hated for Trump it blinds you. Most who voted against him don't hate him, that's just the vocal minority, they oppose and disagree. We should get hate out of politics.
     
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    Bush took the US into Afghanistan because that's where AQ were and the Taliban wouldn't give them up. He liberated Iraq which is now more free, prosperous and peaceful than it's ever been.

    And thought innocent by millions of others?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol: ... more free prosperous and peaceful than it's ever been.... :lol:
     
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    Yep, sure is. You don't hear about it in the media much but then no news is good news?
     
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    Give it up! :roflol: You are blinded because you are so besotted in defending his wrongs and errors. Yes, the majority of whom voted against hate him as well as opposed and disagree with his policies. No one on the right should have hated Clinton or Obama but there you are.
     
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    No, it is not. Iraq is still ruled with an authoritarian regime.
     
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    Yes, tyrants and criminals like to laugh... no surprise there. BTW, did you ever wonder why no one even bothered to raise the issue of Hillary sending, receiving, and re-transmitting classified information on a server that was not (NOT) in a NSA-approved SCIF, as required by LAW and mandatory internal State Department protocol? You didn't? Don't feel bad -- neither did anybody of any importance in the FBI.

    She might have needed an even larger mansion to put one of these things in....

    [​IMG] Learn something new -- this is a "SCIF"....
     
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    Are you sure? Plenty of people seemed to hate HRC? "Lock her up!" Or did they simply oppose her?
     
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    It's ruled by a hybrid regime, it's no shining beacon of democracy but it's freer than it was under Saddam
     
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    So many on the right acted worse than those on the left opposing DJT.

    The cost to the US in our way of life and our civil liberties and our honor is not worth the effort in removing SH.
     
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    Iraq is in terrible shape... it was bombed by America then partially occupied by Isis, torn apart by Iran, the Kurds and America and raped for oil as I write this
     
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    Really? What was the cost? If you mean greater surveillance and Gitmo etc that was more from the war on terror than from the liberation of Iraq?
     
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    Yes and has now recovered, more prosperous and peaceful than it ever has been. The US didn't tear anything apart it was there to help the Iraqis and no one raped it off its' oil, baseless conspiracy theory. Nowadays Iraq is freer than any Arab country than possibly Lebanon and more democratic than anywhere in the Middle East but Israel.
     
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    Reasonablerob, many thousands dead and many more wounded, and millions of friends and family traumatized was theprice.

    Iraq has not recovered. It is not more prosperous and peaceful than ever. Halliburton raped the American taxpayer for the poor job of rebuilding in Iraq. Iraq is one of the least free countries in the Arab world.
     
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    So you'd have left Saddam in charge? Please find me an Iraqi who agrees? It has recovered, it is more peaceful and democratic, every survey says so. Much more so than some of the US's other regional allies? Please no baseless war profiteer conspiracy theories, they went out with the great war.
     
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    You have no idea how nation making works, Reasonablerob.

    There should have been a workable plan in place BEFOREHAND instead of flying by the seat of their asses.

    The Iraqis themselves should have been hired overwhelmingly to do the grunt work of rebuilding. Instead Halliburton got a no-bid contract and ripped off the US Treasury.

    The fact that the Shia, the Kurds, the Sunni, Alquada, ISIL, ISIS, etc. have been making war for fifteen years since SH was overthrown has shown us that your arguments are nonsense.
     
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    No it shows that this was a tough job that would take time. You act like war profiteering is a new thing, it's as old as rent and doesn't negate the benefits of the action. It's okay for you to admit you are wrong and that Iraq is working out these days, it doesn't mean you couldn't have opposed the liberation in the first place.
     
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    You have no idea how nation making works, Reasonablerob.

    There should have been a workable plan in place BEFOREHAND instead of flying by the seat of their asses.

    The Iraqis themselves should have been hired overwhelmingly to do the grunt work of rebuilding. Instead Halliburton got a no-bid contract and ripped off the US Treasury.

    The fact that the Shia, the Kurds, the Sunni, Alquada, ISIL, ISIS, etc. have been making war for fifteen years since SH was overthrown has shown us that your arguments are nonsense.

    You are excusing the inexcusable. There was NO PLAN FOR RECONSTRUCTION in place. The Halliburton job HINDERED SIGNFICANTLY the re-building when it began. The horribale of the tragedy from 2004 to 2015 (and soon to start again) could have been greatly mitigated.

    Your excuses are unacceptable.
     
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    I want logical reasons, reasonablerob, not excuses.
     
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    You've got them, the thing about historical facts is that they're true whether you want to believe them or not. It's okay for you to admit there were WMDs in Iraq and still oppose the war, you have a right to your opinion but not 'alternative facts'.
     

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